Im totally newb to Linux Gentoo, Few questions to help me...

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suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:24 pm

Ok i have a
AMD Anthlon 2500+mhz
750 ram
Ati radeon 9600 256 ram
Cable internet

What type should i download x86, or alpha?
Can i install Linux with Windows XP professional??? On same Hard Drive?
I need to learn this for a job i want. Please tell me the basics thanks. I understand a little bit but not close to enough.

ansient · Post by **ansient** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:28 pm

x86

you can install both if you have a free partition

once you have gentoo installed, if you want to learn more try http://linuxcommand.org

c0vert · Post by **c0vert** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:29 pm

x86, and you can have both OS's installed for a dual boot.

Edit: sorry we must have posted at the same time.

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:35 pm

ansient wrote:x86

you can install both if you have a free partition

once you have gentoo installed, if you want to learn more try http://linuxcommand.org

Wut u mean free partition i got windows XP installed and i dont wanna uninstall it.

# After step 5, core packages, which are the same on all Gentoo installations, are installed
# After step 6, you have compiled your Linux kernel
# After step 7, you have written most of your Gentoo system configuration files
# After step 8, necessary system tools (which you can choose from a nice list) are installed
# After step 9, your choice of bootloader has been installed and configured and you are logged in into your new Gentoo installation

And help here plz Core package is the main file rite correct.
How do i cimpile my kernel
And how to write config files????
What list shows system tools?
bootloader wtf lol

Sorry im really new to linux, ive been using windows xp 6 years now, wit atleast 5 hours a day. So everything in windows is way to easy i want sumthing challenging.

ansient · Post by **ansient** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:42 pm

The steps are explained in the handbook...

If from the livecd you type "fdisk -l" , it will show your partitions.

c0vert · Post by **c0vert** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:43 pm

Wut u mean free partition i got windows XP installed and i dont wanna uninstall it.

He means if you have your HD partioned. Like XP on C: , and maybe you have a D: E: and F: that you are not using w hich could be formatted. If not, trash your windows and start over. Install gentoo first. THen windows XP. Do you have free partions then? another way to tell is. If your drive is 120Gigs, and ur C: is 120 gigs, then you dont have any free partions

How do i cimpile my kernel
And how to write config files????
What list shows system tools?
bootloader wtf lol

Following the gentoo handbook for the iso you downloaded. It takes you through these steps
A bootloader is what screen you are brought up to when your computer is turned on. Some are Grub or Lilo. Grub is used in the handbook. so if you wanted to dual boot. ur bootloader would come up and say

Gentoo 2.6.11
Windows XP

and you highlight which one you want to boot.

edit: we keep posting at the same time

, lol

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:44 pm

k im still reading the handbook, anyways is there a way NOT to boot windows XP and just linux?? if no if they both boot up wont that create lag lol.
Hey can u give good settings to have with my computer(For best performance)
With the stages 1 2 and 3 What stage should i use?

ansient · Post by **ansient** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:48 pm

If you are going to reinstall XP, you should install XP before Linux. Just leave enough free space for new partitions.

suzukiman730 wrote:k im still reading the handbook, anyways is there a way NOT to boot windows XP and just linux?? if no if they both boot up wont that create lag lol.

Lag? From the bootloader, you choose which one you want to boot.

Hey can u give good settings to have with my computer(For best performance)

Here's a nice guide: http://www.funroll-loops.org/

With the stages 1 2 and 3 What stage should i use?

Stage 3.

c0vert · Post by **c0vert** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:49 pm

Use stage 3.
You are not booting at the same time. So theres no lag. Your bootloader comes up after your mobo is loaded and asks you which one you want to load.

Hey can u give good settings to have with my computer(For best performance)

good settings with what?

i wouldnt tweak your harddrive performance in linux unless you know exactly what your doing. Is that what you meant?

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:50 pm

k thanks,
So when i start my computer with linx + windows installed it will show windows starting up then what... If it boots of disc then does the bootloader come automaticlly or is there a command?
And wut is kernel i see it in handbook and i dont know wut i means

c0vert · Post by **c0vert** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:53 pm

When you start your computer, windows will not be loaded. That screen with the blue bars going across saying Windows XP will not come up. If you have grub, which you probably will if you follow handbook. A blue screen, with a nice splash background will pop up all before windows even thinks of loading that says basically
Choose which OS you want to boot
Linux
Windows XP

use down/up arrow to choose
if you choose windows XP THEN windows will load, if you choose linux windows will do absolutley nothing nor touched at all... so that solves ur lag problem. lol

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:57 pm

c0vert wrote:When you start your computer, windows will not be loaded. That screen with the blue bars going across saying Windows XP will not come up. If you have grub, which you probably will if you follow handbook. A blue screen, with a nice splash background will pop up all before windows even thinks of loading that says basically
Choose which OS you want to boot
Linux
Windows XP

use down/up arrow to choose
if you choose windows XP THEN windows will load, if you choose linux windows will do absolutley nothing nor touched at all... so that solves ur lag problem. lol

Thanks a whole bunch dude=D Learning alot already lol this forum is like INSTANT help

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:58 pm

Anyways, can somone help me with kernel wut is that? In handbook its talking about it and im lost lol

Kernel Description
gentoo Default 2.6 kernel with support for multiple CPUs
gentoo-nofb Same as gentoo but without framebuffer support
memtest86 Test your local RAM for errors

Expain plz im not understanding what kernel is

c0vert · Post by **c0vert** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:05 pm

A kernels the core of your operating system. It's basically , um, I'm not sure how to expain this one. For example, you can load different drivers or things into your kernel before it is compiled. Compiled meaning when it is turned into machine code for processing (1's and 0's). Another example. If you had a SATA drive, you would have to go to your kernel settings and put in the driver for that, which theres a lot of forum threads on that in this forum.
umm, im not sure what else to say besides its the Core of your operating system. Install gentoo and you will have a much better understanding as you experience it, and go through the settings.

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:14 pm

Ok thanks

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:28 pm

How do i make config files... like i said here
Somone else explain compiled is plz
What system tools
And bootloader??? How i use this Im still reading handbook

# After step 5, core packages, which are the same on all Gentoo installations, are installed
# After step 6, you have compiled your Linux kernel
# After step 7, you have written most of your Gentoo system configuration files
# After step 8, necessary system tools (which you can choose from a nice list) are installed
# After step 9, your choice of bootloader has been installed and configured and you are logged in into your new Gentoo installation

And do i have to install each of my hardware files?? Like how do i configure my router+modem to run on linux??? Is it automatic? Keyboard ,screen etc

And wut do partitions mean?? What i do?

ansient · Post by **ansient** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:06 am

Please read the entire handbook, word for word.

pulzed · Post by **pulzed** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:34 am

suzukiman730 wrote:How do i make config files... like i said here
Somone else explain compiled is plz
What system tools
And bootloader??? How i use this Im still reading handbook

# After step 5, core packages, which are the same on all Gentoo installations, are installed
# After step 6, you have compiled your Linux kernel
# After step 7, you have written most of your Gentoo system configuration files
# After step 8, necessary system tools (which you can choose from a nice list) are installed
# After step 9, your choice of bootloader has been installed and configured and you are logged in into your new Gentoo installation
And do i have to install each of my hardware files?? Like how do i configure my router+modem to run on linux??? Is it automatic? Keyboard ,screen etc

And wut do partitions mean?? What i do?

Maybe, the easiest way would be to boot from the gentoo x86 livecd you downloaded and try to follow the gentoo handbook, it will take you through all of these steps. You could then use the webbrowser links (non-graphical) on the livecd, to post your specific questions here on the problems that you may encounter on the way. I highly recommend that you make backups of your data on your windows system first in case something goes wrong, and do some research on partitions on the web. Good luck.

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:35 am

I thought the x86 download was iso....

ansient · Post by **ansient** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:36 am

suzukiman730 wrote:I thought the x86 download was iso....

Then perhaps you should look up whether there is actually a meaningful difference, and alieviate such thoughts with facts.

Try one of these helpful sites:

www.google.com
www.wikipedia.org

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:56 am

Hey what do i burn to disc just the live cd????? Or do i just burn the rar as an iso in alcohol 120%?

c0vert · Post by **c0vert** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:01 am

ya burn the iso file to the cd.

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:11 am

SOOOO the WHOLE rar or the live cd?? lol say live cd or whole rar

ansient · Post by **ansient** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:22 am

There is no rar.

suzukiman730 · Post by **suzukiman730** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:55 am

Huh well win rar says it is lol.. ok anyways i should do stage 3.... in pros and cons it says its the crappiest one

Now fill in your nameserver(s) using the following as a template. Make sure you substitute ${NAMESERVER1} and ${NAMESERVER2} with the appropriate nameserver addresses:

Code Listing 23: /etc/resolv.conf template

nameserver ${NAMESERVER1}
nameserver ${NAMESERVER2}

nameserver??

/dev/hda1 ext2 32M Boot partition
/dev/hda2 (swap) 512M Swap partition
/dev/hda3 ext3 Rest of the disk Root partition

Rest of disK??? so ill have 0 hd wtf?

And do i need to wipe all my partitions before install? as it says here

Removing all Partitions

We will first remove all existing partitions from the disk. Type d to delete a partition. For instance, to delete an existing /dev/hda1:

Wut do i do for partitions wuts like a good thing for my specs ????

Last but not least

Depending on your installation medium, you have a couple of tools available to download a stage. If you have links2 available, then you can immediately surf to the Gentoo mirrorlist and choose a mirror close to you.

Does the boot cd have links2 already?