Who has tried out evas!?!?

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LinuxDude · Post by **LinuxDude** » Fri May 31, 2002 4:38 am

I don't know about you, but I emerged evas last night and ran the evas_test program. DAMN!!! This is exciting stuff! For those of you that don't know what evas is its a canvas that supports OpenGL (Similar to Apple's new Quartz Extreme). Here is the link to the official page... http://www.enlightenment.org/pages/evas.html

Anyway just wanted to see who has tried it and any comments on how sweet this will be once the new version of Enlightenment comes out with support for this.

-Chris

handsomepete · Post by **handsomepete** » Fri May 31, 2002 5:22 am

That demo is neat. It locked me up eventually (switching back and forth between hardware and basic X11 support killed everything). A hardware accelerated fancy shmancy desktop is a cool idea, but I'm sure it'll be universally shunned by the Linux community who don't use fancy hardware. I think this is what the big 'M' is working on with their next big OS...

TwoSlick · Post by **TwoSlick** » Fri May 31, 2002 5:29 am

Thanks for the post. I just tried it out, and....... WOW!!!!

I can't wait to implement something like this for my desktop!

I noticed the demo was very smooth throughout, but at the end it got ---slightly--- choppy. I thought it was using my hardware, but when I started messing with the buttons, I realized that the program was doing all of it completly in software! When I replayed the demo using hardware acceleration, the framerates were awesome! I was getting over 600 fps at parts, and never went below 150. My average fps was 423. WOW!

- Tim

crashman · Post by **crashman** » Fri May 31, 2002 5:37 am

The problems of getting e17 to work was the only reason I regretted going to Gentoo. Now that evas is here, e17 will be right behind it. I'm stoked!!!

garbageiscool2 · Post by **garbageiscool2** » Fri May 31, 2002 8:04 am

Thanks for pointing out there is an ebuild for it

can't wait to try out e17 too! i love e16.5 as is so i am really excited for the new and super enhanced E

(compiling evas right now)
[edit] Total Average FPS: 35.14 my system is getting too slow

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lx · Post by lx » Fri May 31, 2002 8:13 am

Yep read about it, that's why I'm so eager to try e17, tried a cvs compile a month or so ago,

, forgot about it, also I can't get a clear reading of their site, when the release is due, sometimes there's no news for a month,...... just forgetting about it, and one day do emerge e17,

garbageiscool2 · Post by **garbageiscool2** » Fri May 31, 2002 8:17 am

lx wrote:Yep read about it, that's why I'm so eager to try e17, tried a cvs compile a month or so ago, , forgot about it, also I can't get a clear reading of their site, when the release is due, sometimes there's no news for a month,...... just forgetting about it, and one day do emerge e17,

yeah i wish they would at least give estimates :/

garbageiscool2 · Post by **garbageiscool2** » Fri May 31, 2002 8:32 am

http://www.cuddletech.com/e17/ lots of e17 screenshots looks great

Post by **pjp** » Fri May 31, 2002 9:22 pm

Yes... after I read this thread and emerged it

. Avg fps: 67.45... is that good? I'm not a gamer, so I'm not up on frame rates.

Is there an 8th wonder of the world? yes... rancid cheese.

I loved that.

Anyone know if evas will work with other WMs?

c_kuzmanic · Post by **c_kuzmanic** » Mon Jun 03, 2002 4:44 am

Ok I emerged it, played around with it and found it to be very, very interesting. Is this going to be something that will be integrated in the upcoming e17?

lx · Post by lx » Mon Jun 03, 2002 8:10 am

c_kuzmanic wrote:Is this going to be something that will be integrated in the upcoming e17?

It will be one of the key parts of enlightenment.

c_kuzmanic · Post by **c_kuzmanic** » Mon Jun 03, 2002 8:38 am

Wow, very impressive. This will definetely put new life into enlightenment. An X-Accelerated Desktop - - -

garbageiscool2 · Post by **garbageiscool2** » Mon Jun 03, 2002 1:25 pm

if anyone wants to try out e17 you can download the source with cvs with these two commands

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cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment login
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment co e17

and if anyone that knows how to make ebuilds would mind please make an ebuild for this

craftyc · Post by **craftyc** » Mon Jun 03, 2002 1:46 pm

Will there be anything similar for fluxbox? Or is it fluxbox compaitble?

lx · Post by lx » Mon Jun 03, 2002 1:51 pm

I know you can download e17 using cvs, but it are all seperate packages, so it will take some time to make the ebuilds. The last time I tried I got al kind of errors so there's a very small change I will give it a try later on this week, first it should compile without problems though. (Errata: tried it yesterday and still got the same errors, so I just wait a bit longer)

But DAMN, just tried it out (evas) and its far more impressive that just reading the plain facts, works great with hardware acceleration, could even run a few evas_test's at the same time.

Well I got to choose between enlightenment 0.17 and gnome 2. Trouble with enlightenment is that I can't get a fix on when the product will be realised (month / year / decennium / ... / never). But the demo looks very nice, just wonder how the whole acts as a desktop environment, maybe it ain't that good, maybe it's great. Anyone tried yet?

Cya lX

garbageiscool2 · Post by **garbageiscool2** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 2:56 am

looks like my low FPS is due to nvidia drivers not working :/ can't get glx to load on dual monitors...

akhkharu99 · Post by **akhkharu99** » Wed Jun 12, 2002 12:13 am

i can't get the evas test to work. all i get is this:

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bash-2.05a# evas_test
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Segmentation fault

any ideas?

mihochan · Post by **mihochan** » Wed Jun 12, 2002 2:01 am

I tried it out. It looks pretty nice.
Has anyone managed to get Berlin running?
That actually looks like it might be even cooler.

Tom

neuron · Post by **neuron** » Wed Jun 12, 2002 2:31 am

been reading up on Berlin, looks EXTREAMLY interesting, been wanting for something to replace xfree for a long time (lets compare linux console with dos (.. only thing I could think of), and xfree as windows 1-3, I wanna move to win95, a lot of shit won't work in between, but most things will, and overall the linux desktop enviroment will have progressed a lot).

still, it's not even remotly close to production ready yet :/

neuron · Post by **neuron** » Wed Jun 12, 2002 2:33 am

TwoSlick wrote:Thanks for the post. I just tried it out, and....... WOW!!!!
I can't wait to implement something like this for my desktop!

I noticed the demo was very smooth throughout, but at the end it got ---slightly--- choppy. I thought it was using my hardware, but when I started messing with the buttons, I realized that the program was doing all of it completly in software! When I replayed the demo using hardware acceleration, the framerates were awesome! I was getting over 600 fps at parts, and never went below 150. My average fps was 423. WOW!

- Tim

what kind of system was that on? and what resolution were you in?

in 1280x1024 on a nvidia geforce2pro, 1400mhz athlon and 512mb ram I got between 150-200, over 600fps, I'd like to know how you did that

.

starting to think it's using a method I don't have support for properly installed or something.

Tuxisuau · Post by **Tuxisuau** » Wed Jun 12, 2002 4:29 am

TwoSlick wrote:Thanks for the post. I just tried it out, and....... WOW!!!! :D :D :D
I can't wait to implement something like this for my desktop!

I noticed the demo was very smooth throughout, but at the end it got ---slightly--- choppy. I thought it was using my hardware, but when I started messing with the buttons, I realized that the program was doing all of it completly in software! When I replayed the demo using hardware acceleration, the framerates were awesome! I was getting over 600 fps at parts, and never went below 150. My average fps was 423. WOW!

- Tim

423 average frames? Never below 150? Somebody should implement limiting the framerate. How many of you have more than 100Hz of refresh rate? ;). We should preserve our cpu power to do other interesting things too :))

I really fucking love EVAS!

akhkharu99 · Post by **akhkharu99** » Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:15 pm

so, what do i have to do in order to get the evas_test to work?
this is the error i get:

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bash-2.05a# evas_test
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Segmentation fault

mihochan · Post by **mihochan** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 12:56 am

Log out as root and run the programme as the user who
started the xsession.

The access control to the Xserver can be disabled by the command
'xhost +'

Sivar · Post by **Sivar** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 1:37 am

Pardon my ignorance, but what is everyone "WOW!"ing about?
Admittedly I haven't installed it, but looking at the screenshots, it looks like yet another window manager. I used E years ago when my system was too slow for it, and this doesn't look all that different.

I can certainly see the technological advantage of using 3D acceleration instead of the croggy old VGA standard, seeing as how 3D cards are very good at smooth movement of objects (such as windows) and can offload much of the work from the processor, but I really do not see anything that warrants a "WOW!" Am I missing something?

akhkharu99 · Post by **akhkharu99** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 1:44 am

WOW!!!!
thanks for the tip! this looks great.
and yes, you are missing something sivar. run the evas_test, and see for yourself!

Who has tried out evas!?!?

Have you emerged evas yet?

Who has tried out evas!?!?

Not till you posted that it was there

Evas rocks

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