kdm "not" autostarting

Warp4 · n00b Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 47

Same problem here

Starts only when i press some keys.

little Info

Portage 2.0.50-r11
(default-x86-2004.2, gcc-3.3.4, glibc-2.3.3.20040420-r1, 2.6.7)

udev-032
hotplug-20040923
coldplug-20040920
nvidia-kernel-6111
nvidia-glx-6111
xorg-6.8.0-r1
kde-3.3.0

All packages re-emerged

cu
warpy

firephoto · Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject:

This is happening on both machines here now. One running gentoo-dev kernel and this one running ck7 kernel. Could this be related to the nvidia-kernel driver changes? Is everyone with this problem and nvidia user perhaps?

I tried setting the rc_parallel_startup to "no" but it didn't change anything.

ktech · Guru Joined: 12 Apr 2003 Posts: 340

no, I'm not using nothing nvidia related.

firephoto · Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject:

I saw another post where someone had this problem and it occured after they upgraded gcc. There's a german thread that's similar too but no solution there.

ktech · Guru Joined: 12 Apr 2003 Posts: 340

gcc? sure? I don't remember upgrading a few days ago. What gcc are you using, folks?

mine is:

Latest version installed: 3.4.1-r2

Warp4 · n00b Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 47

not only keys

works also when i moved my mouse

warpy

firephoto · Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:51 pm Post subject:

gcc-3.4.2-r2 here.

Moving the mouse eh? Maybe that's why I thought it I had it fixed once after I re-emerged nvidia-* packages.

So it must be related to an input driver (??) since the keyboard or mouse will get it past the hangup......... But since the kernel didn't change, what package did change and only for what seems to be a few of us?

Regor · Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject:

It has been happening for me as well, with gcc 3.3.4-r1. It didn't do it the last couple of times I've booted, so I'm not sure if it's still a problem here. It's very strange behavior though.
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firephoto · Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject:

Try this, seems to have worked for me just now.

firephoto · Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject:

Ok while that seemed to work on this one, the othe computer didn't change it's behavior when I did what I mentioned above.

Mystery continues.

Raistlin · l33t Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 691 Location: Boston, MA

hm... because i wanted being able to burn again (kernel 2.6.8.1 is somehow messed up...) i used my old 2.6.7 (gentoo-r14). there burning, fortunately, works and - surprise - the kdm-autostarting issue is gone...

i won't boot any 2.6.8.X-kernel again, but wait for the 2.6.9 release...

cheers, raist.
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firephoto · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:21 pm Post subject:

The thing is my kernels didn't change from when kdm was working properly till it started not working properly.

Kern3lP4nic · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:04 pm Post subject:

Hi, kdm does not auto-start for me too...

Just curious: do all of you have udev installed? Because it seems to me that this problem started since I switched to a pure udev system (only major change, if I remember correctly), a couple of days ago... before I never had problems of this kind.

Some specs:
kernel 2.6.8-r3
ati drivers 3.9
gcc 3.3.4
xorg 6.8.0-r1
kde 3.3
udev-032 (but I also tried the 030)

cheers

ktech · Guru Joined: 12 Apr 2003 Posts: 340

I have udev too, but I think the problem come after I switched to it. It could be latest release of udev, by the way...

amaruq

Good day,

I have the same problem with kdm on an Acer Travelmate 800 with gcc 3.4.2, kde-3.3.0 and xorg-x11 6.8. I took a look at /etc/init.d/xdm and there it checks for DISPLAYMANAGER (after reading /etc/profile.env), but this variable is not set, though it is set in /etc/rc.conf. When I set DISPLAYMANAGER manually, it worked. There also seems already an entry in gentoo linux bugzilla regarding this matter.

Kern3lP4nic · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:50 am Post subject:

Thanks but... your fix isn't working for me :cry:

. And, to tell you the truth, this is not that strange since /etc/profile.env gets automatically regenerated at every boot (thus losing every custom modifications...). By the other side, I am quite sure this is not a problem related to missing or wrong variabiles in /etc/X11/startDM.sh and xdm, which are the two scripts directly involved in this issue (please someone correct me if I'm wrong). This, for the following reasons:
1. If I manually launch the xdm script once logged in everything works as it should.
2. I added some "echo" commands on key variabiles inside the scripts (the EXE variabile in startDM.sh, for instance), checked them at boot time and found no wrong/missing value.

My conclusion: this is a _NASTY_ problem...

amaruq · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject:

Well, I put some debug-messages in /etc/init.d/xdm and DISPLAYMANAGER and MY_XDM were set properly, so my assumption regarding DISPLAYMANGER was false. But running the script from console always said that xdm is already running, though I killed all processes beforehand and checked via 'ps aux'. What I didn't check at first was /var/run where I still found kdm.pid

After removing the file and a reboot (until now 5 times) kdm came up (always). I forget to check the date of the file, so I don't know if it was still from the time I re-emerged xorg-x11, qt and kde-3.3.0 while running KDE.

Kern3lP4nic · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject:

Yes, the behavior you described is similar to what I get. On mine machine it feels like kdm starts but, without any apparent reason, it just does'nt shows up. Everything works if manually launch the xdm script right after boot instead (having previously removed it from autostart, sorry I forgot to specify this previously).
I also tried the latest 2.6.7 but nothing

Soon or later I'll try reenabling devfs and see what happens then...

JLP · Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject:

I'm another guy with this problem. KDM sometimes shows up and sometimes it doesn't. At first I had an ATI Radeon 9600XT graphics card and now I changed to GeForce 6800 but I had this problem with both. I only have a feeling that with the new card the problem is more frequent then before. All the tricks with typing and moving mouse also work for me. BTW I'm currently using kernel gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.8-r4, udev and hotplug and gcc 3.4.2 and KDE 3.3.0. XOrg is 6.8.0.

Is there a bug filed about this in b.g.o? Does any developer know about this?
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Kern3lP4nic · Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject:

Maybe I found a solution... I've done little testing until now but I think it works (at least for me

). Assuming you are running "pure" udev, you have to go in /etc/conf.d/rc and set:

sir_skiner · Apprentice Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 282 Location: Poland

gues what? it doesn't

oh, look at my yesterdays post: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=230654
and i have the very same obserwations about /var/run... franklly it's really pissing me off :twisted:

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JLP · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:39 am Post subject:

Yeah I also tried this yesterday and it also doesn't work for me

Does anyone know what exactly is going on here?
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JLP · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:52 am Post subject:

I couldn't find any existing bug in the Gentoo bug database so I added this:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66011
Please add comments to this bug if I missed somehing, ot if you have some new information/idea.
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sir_skiner · Apprentice Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 282 Location: Poland

could someone call this bug on gentoos bugzilla? i would do so, but i'm afraid my english isn't good enough and i could misspoken on sth really important :wink:

JLP: you read my minds

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sir_skiner · Apprentice Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 282 Location: Poland