Universal cd install problem

[MagmaRules]

hello im kind of new in linux world ( at least at installing all from scrath world ).
Im following the online manual but when i try to bootstrap my sistem it tryies to connect to the internet and i dont have it configured , becose im suposed to be installing from the livecd ( universal one ).
I dont know how to tell him that the stuff is on the hda and not on the net .

I do this to bootstrap :

# cd /usr/portage
# scripts/bootstrap.sh

[Tii]

You can't normally do a stage 1 installation without a network connection.

[codedmart]

If your installing from stage3 no network connection you don't need to bootstrap

[MagmaRules]

In the manual it doesnt seem to be a problem , it was suposed to work without an internet connection , what i think is that it is supposed to tem the compiler that the target is on the hda and ther is no step for it .

What could i have missed ??

[MagmaRules]

im starting from stage one allready did :

Extracting the stage tarball

# tar -xvjpf /mnt/cdrom/stages/stage3-<subarch>-20040412.tar.bz2

Extracting a Portage snapshot

# tar -xvjf /mnt/cdrom/snapshots/portage-20040413.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr


Copy over source code

# mkdir /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/distfiles
# cp /mnt/cdrom/distfiles/* /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/distfiles/


and the use flags are ready

[Tii]

If you extracted the stage3 tarball you are starting from stage3 and don't need to bootstrap. The handbook clearly states that "A stage1 installation can only be performed when you have a working Internet connection. ". So if you extracted the stage3 tarball skip moving from stage 1 to stage 2 and moving from stage2 to stage3.

[MagmaRules]

Ok so i cant put my connection to work so i have to start from the stage3 ok , well lost time thanks for the help

[Quantumstate]

I think this is not clear at all in the Handbook.Yes I saw:
"A stage1 installation can only be performed when you have a working Internet connection."

But seemingly countermanding this is the subsequent:
"Gentoo's Universal LiveCD is a bootable CD suitable to install Gentoo without networking.", in apparent contrast to the Minimal. As a Suse vet of 5 years, I'm used to mistakes and contradictions in guides. Since it doesn't make sense that Stage 1 is internet-only (when all the necessary philes are on-disk) I moved forward and failed likewise.

Suggest the Handbook clarify, as my internet is down, and I had to go to the library to post this. (My internet is via WiFi, and the Orinoco driver fails to load into LiveCD, with symbol errors)

I did find an apparent workaround to installing Stage1 without internet in the Alternative Install guide, so will take that home and try it, hoping it works. If not, I guess I'll settle for 3, and maybe fsck with optimizing later.

Also suggest vfat be included on LiveCD. I had a bad zip distro file on my CD, and wanted to replace it using floppy. No vfat module though. Fortunately I had another machine running *nix where I could format the floppy to ext2 and do the transfer. Maybe I'll submit it as a bug.

[Quantumstate]

Followup:

Handbook question entered as a bug.

VFat question is alreading entered, and the module will be added to 4.2 .