ATI Linux chat!!! - x86_64 drivers, Xorg 6.8 support!!

black hole sun · Apprentice Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 245

Here is the log from the Rage3d chat that took place earlier today;

http://www.zen58308.zen.co.uk/ati_linuxlog.txt

Finally getting their act together

The december release is going to be a bombshell

What I REALLY like is that their codebase will, as of the december release be the same as the 4.11 Windows release!
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parsim · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:39 am Post subject:

/me wipes up drool.

Just need to see if the talk translates into action!

bob_111 · Apprentice Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 155

about time!!!!

d4rk74m4 · Arch/Herd Tester Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 151

The chat was certainly... interesting.

I think it was more fun watching #atilinuxq for the questions then it was watching #rage3d for the answers :p

Theres a few questions that were asked, that I would've like to know the answer to, but oh well, there's only so much you can fit into an hour.

To summerise:
AMD64 Support december release
Xorg 6.8 december release
Multiple X Servers will be supported eventually
Installer they're working on it
Composite when it's matured and the code stabalised, they'll support it.
Xgl see Composite answer
Development team they know the numbers, but didn't specify (roughly proportianal to the market), but resources HAVE increased in the last year.
Reputation They are very concerned with their reputation, and as such are going to keep linux users more informed from now on.
ACPI: They're working on it, but linux is still evolving in that area.

Hopefully that was complete, and mostly correct. I'm confident in seeing things change now (more than before when all I had were rumours). Hopefully ATI will prove me right!!

bennettp · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:56 pm Post subject:

what's Xgl?
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Merlin-TC · l33t Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 603 Location: Germany

We'll see how the drivers turn out.
If they really do use the windows codebase (however they achieve this) then the release will be pretty sweet.

I am just having some doubts here....for month nothing really happened and now they want to release that ueber driver?
Let's hope they just focused on this release and that's why they didn't release any good linux drivers in the past month.

JohnVot · n00b Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 21

What about radeon mobility 9700's support ?

d4rk74m4 · Arch/Herd Tester Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 151

Merlin-TC · l33t Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 603 Location: Germany

But would drawing in OpenGL be really faster?
I know not that many people care about power consumption but I do and using 3D will suck more power for sure.
And as long as there are no power saving options even when 3D is used I would suggest doing that.
Or is there something I missed?

ryceck · Apprentice Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 195

I just hope these guyz really make up for their words.
64-Bit xorg6.8 support would be pretty damn nice for my new AMD64 with a 9700pro

dumbo · n00b Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 34

"But would drawing in OpenGL be really faster?"

Answer: Yes. It would, in theory, allow the Xorg maintainers to hardware accelerate all the X11 operations [apparently XAA only accelerates some operations - and not necessarily the most useful ones].

madbiker · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject:

I heard rumors about these.. uh... rumors a few months ago.

Linux being as fast or faster than windows in every way, plus 6.8 support... Excited!

Kow · Apprentice Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 227

Very good news for me as a AMD64 user with a ATI Radeon 9700 Pro.

No AIW support ... there will never be any in Linux, oh well I should have expected that.

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herbo · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 11:31 am Post subject:

At the moment they are all suggestions... not even promises.

I have hope that the Decemeber release will be very good, but I am not holding my breath. ATI's track record is NOT good...

I degraded to xorg 6.7 to try out Doom3 with these new drivers and can't play it for more than 1 or 2 minutes before it locks up and I have to kill my X session to regain control.

As each release comes out, I get more and more pesimistic about the future of ATI and Linux.... I can only hope Nvidia's efforts shame and humiliate ATI into action.

vdboor · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:33 pm Post subject:

This almost sounds like an Christmas present from ATI

Thumbs up!
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trilexx · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:08 am Post subject:

/me shakes

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Dragobich · n00b Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 6

Lets hope they don't dissapoint (again) or else it's nvidia 6600AGP for me hehe