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Naib Watchman


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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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I hear it was run by the germans _________________ The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
Great Britain is a republic, with a hereditary president, while the United States is a monarchy with an elective king |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Naib wrote: | I hear it was run by the germans |
why? we don't need to cage children so some BBC presenters and tories can rape them. Under the watchful eye of Mrs Thatcher.
We got the 'Odenwaldschule' for that. No fence. Just mental torture. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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Linux Passion n00b

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, Germans don't need to do that. They have better solutions. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Linux Passion wrote: | Yeah, Germans don't need to do that. They have better solutions. |
of course we have. We force them to learn english, for example. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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Linux Passion n00b

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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What?!
You can't be serious.
Let's see... you force someone to learn the most-spoken language of the world and you think that is a punishment? Are you a Turk? |
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John-Boy Guru


Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 439 Location: Desperately seeking moksha in all the wrong places
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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energyman76b wrote: | Linux Passion wrote: | Yeah, Germans don't need to do that. They have better solutions. |
of course we have. We force them to learn english, for example. |
Which is a Germanic language, albeit in part. _________________ Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood" |
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mdeininger Veteran


Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1740 Location: Emerald Isles, observing Dublin's docklands
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Linux Passion wrote: | What?!
You can't be serious.
Let's see... you force someone to learn the most-spoken language of the world and you think that is a punishment? Are you a Turk? | You don't understand. They force the kids to learn English while the teachers that are supposed to teach them don't actually know the language well enough to read it. _________________ "Confident, lazy, cocky, dead." -- Felix Jongleur, Otherland
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Linux Passion n00b

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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No, I don't understand. Really.
You're saying German teachers don't know English well enough to teach them, yet the course/curriculum includes English? |
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mdeininger Veteran


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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Linux Passion wrote: | No, I don't understand. Really.
You're saying German teachers don't know English well enough to teach them, yet the course/curriculum includes English? | Exactly. It's designed to be insanely frustrating so as to torture the kids.
You either commit suicide, become a depressed drone - the intended result - or you pick up English and move the hell out of that dump. _________________ "Confident, lazy, cocky, dead." -- Felix Jongleur, Otherland
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Linux Passion n00b

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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I can't imagine it to be that difficult for a German to learn English. You're exaggerating. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Linux Passion wrote: | I can't imagine it to be that difficult for a German to learn English. You're exaggerating. |
when I left school after 7 years of useless english indoctrination, I had trouble to read, speaking or writing? almost impossible.
One year using the internet taught me more english than the whole school system. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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mdeininger wrote: | Linux Passion wrote: | No, I don't understand. Really.
You're saying German teachers don't know English well enough to teach them, yet the course/curriculum includes English? | Exactly. It's designed to be insanely frustrating so as to torture the kids.
You either commit suicide, become a depressed drone - the intended result - or you pick up English and move the hell out of that dump. |
I mostly concur. I assume the reason is to increase your resilence against intelligence. Dumb people buy McDonald's, watch reality tv and don't care about politics. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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Linux Passion n00b

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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The problem isn't English, it is your teachers conspiring to sabotage the learning process.
If that's what you meant in the first place...
English is the easiest language in the world. Unlike other languages, it doesn't assign gender to nouns. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Linux Passion wrote: | The problem isn't English, it is your teachers conspiring to sabotage the learning process.
If that's what you meant in the first place...
English is the easiest language in the world. Unlike other languages, it doesn't assign gender to nouns. |
which is one of the reasons why it is so horrible. Information loss is not tolerable. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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Linux Passion n00b

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Is your non-existent mustache male or female?
I'm pretty sure a Frenchman can answer that with ease. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Linux Passion wrote: | Is your non-existent mustache male or female?
I'm pretty sure a Frenchman can answer that with ease. |
Der Bart is male of course. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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wildhorse Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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energyman76b wrote: | Linux Passion wrote: | I can't imagine it to be that difficult for a German to learn English. You're exaggerating. |
when I left school after 7 years of useless english indoctrination, I had trouble to read, speaking or writing? almost impossible.
One year using the internet taught me more english than the whole school system. | I noticed that.
You should see what reading Star Trek in English does to you in one year.  |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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wildhorse wrote: | energyman76b wrote: | Linux Passion wrote: | I can't imagine it to be that difficult for a German to learn English. You're exaggerating. |
when I left school after 7 years of useless english indoctrination, I had trouble to read, speaking or writing? almost impossible.
One year using the internet taught me more english than the whole school system. | I noticed that.
You should see what reading Star Trek in English does to you in one year.  |
insanity? _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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porodzila Guru


Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 307 Location: Terrapin Station
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I challenge the non native speakers to enjoy some of our 14th century poetry.
Quote: | Grisilde is deed, and eek hire pacience,
And bothe atones buried in Itaille
For which I crye in open audience
No wedded man so hardly be t'assaille
His wyves pacience, in hope to finde
Grisildes, for in certein he shall failed
. . .
Folweth Ekko, that holdeth no silence,
But evere answereth at the countretaille;
Beth nat bidaffed for youre innocence
But sharply tak on yow the governaille.
Emprinteth well this lesson in youre minde
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_________________ ubi primum potero, me hinc subduco. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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porodzila wrote: | I challenge the non native speakers to enjoy some of our 14th century poetry.
Quote: | Grisilde is deed, and eek hire pacience,
And bothe atones buried in Itaille
For which I crye in open audience
No wedded man so hardly be t'assaille
His wyves pacience, in hope to finde
Grisildes, for in certein he shall failed
. . .
Folweth Ekko, that holdeth no silence,
But evere answereth at the countretaille;
Beth nat bidaffed for youre innocence
But sharply tak on yow the governaille.
Emprinteth well this lesson in youre minde
For commune profit, Sith it may availle |
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'our'? _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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energyman76b wrote: | porodzila wrote: | I challenge the non native speakers to enjoy some of our 14th century poetry.
Quote: | Grisilde is deed, and eek hire pacience,
And bothe atones buried in Itaille
For which I crye in open audience
No wedded man so hardly be t'assaille
His wyves pacience, in hope to finde
Grisildes, for in certein he shall failed
. . .
Folweth Ekko, that holdeth no silence,
But evere answereth at the countretaille;
Beth nat bidaffed for youre innocence
But sharply tak on yow the governaille.
Emprinteth well this lesson in youre minde
For commune profit, Sith it may availle |
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'our'? |
It's just a way of saying. Our refers to those of us who are the audience of it and the linguistic offspring this work produced . _________________ ubi primum potero, me hinc subduco. |
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mdeininger Veteran


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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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porodzila wrote: | energyman76b wrote: | porodzila wrote: | I challenge the non native speakers to enjoy some of our 14th century poetry.
Quote: | Grisilde is deed, and eek hire pacience,
And bothe atones buried in Itaille
For which I crye in open audience
No wedded man so hardly be t'assaille
His wyves pacience, in hope to finde
Grisildes, for in certein he shall failed
. . .
Folweth Ekko, that holdeth no silence,
But evere answereth at the countretaille;
Beth nat bidaffed for youre innocence
But sharply tak on yow the governaille.
Emprinteth well this lesson in youre minde
For commune profit, Sith it may availle |
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'our'? |
It's just a way of saying. Our refers to those of us who are the audience of it and the linguistic offspring this work produced . | Eh, that's not so bad. My ex studied Middle High German or something like that. THAT was strange to read. _________________ "Confident, lazy, cocky, dead." -- Felix Jongleur, Otherland
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Under der linden
an der heide,
dâ unser zweier bette was,
Dâ muget ir vinden
schône beide
gebrochen bluomen unde gras.
Vor dem walde in einem tal,
tandaradei,
schône sanc diu nahtegal.
Ich kam gegangen
zuo der ouwe:
dô was mîn friedel komen ê.
Dâ wart ich empfangen,
hêre frouwe,
daz ich bin saelic iemer mê.
Kuster mich? wol tûsentstunt:
tandaradei,
seht wie rôt mir ist der munt.
Dô het er gemachet
alsô rîche
von bluomen eine bettestat.
Des wirt noch gelachet
inneclîche,
kumt iemen an daz selbe pfat.
Bî den rôsen er wol mac,
tandaradei,
merken wâ mirz houbet lac.
Daz er bî mir laege,
wessez iemen
(nu enwelle got!), sô schamt ich mich.
Wes er mit mir pflaege,
niemer niemen
bevinde daz, wan er und ich.
Und ein kleinez vogellîn:
tandaradei,
daz mac wol getriuwe sîn.
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really easy to read.
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Ich saz ûf eime steine
und dahte bein mit beine:
dar ûf satzt ich den ellenbogen:
ich hete in mîne hant gesmogen
daz kinne und ein mîn wange.
dó dâhte ich mir vil ange,
wie man zer welte solte leben.
deheinen rât kond ich gegeben,
wie man driu dinc erwurbe,
der keines niht verdurbe.
diu zwei sint êre und varnde guot,
daz dicke ein ander schaden tuot:
daz dritte ist gotes hulde,
der zweier übergulde.
diu wolte ich gerne in einen schrîn.
jâ leider desn mac niht gesîn,
daz guot und weltich êre
und gotes hulde mêre
zesamene in ein herze komen.
stîg unde wege sint in benomen:
untriuwe ist in der sâze,
gewalt vert ûf der strâze:
fride unde reht sint sêre wunt.
diu driu enhabent geleites niht,
diu zwei enwerden ê gesunt.
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even easier to read. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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Bones McCracker Veteran


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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure these students will grow up to be fine British citizens and contribute much to society. In Canada. |
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