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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 12:41 pm    Post subject: [SOLVED] emerge -c wants to get rid of the whole xorg stack Reply with quote

Update: (May 26, 2014) Setting this as solved, since the majority opinion is that this is expected behavior, and xorg-server should be added to world set if the profile is only desktop profile.


Edit: (May 25, 2014) This is not solved. This is just a workaround -- I added xorg-server to the world set, and then the rest of the xorg stuff got upgraded and didn't show up in depclean.
Code:
emerge --noreplace xorg-server



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This is perplexing. emerge -c returns this.. essentially it wants to remove everything xorg related.
Code:
~» emerge -pcq
dev-cpp/gtkmm: 3.10.1 none 2.24.4
net-libs/libasyncns: 0.8-r3 none none
app-crypt/gpgme: 1.3.2 none none
media-libs/sbc: 1.2 none none
app-editors/vim: 7.4.193 none none
media-libs/mutagen: 1.22 none none
kde-base/ktimezoned: 4.12.5 none none
x11-themes/sound-theme-freedesktop: 0.8 none none
media-libs/webrtc-audio-processing: 0.1-r1 none none
kde-base/kglobalaccel: 4.12.5 none none
dev-libs/json-c: 0.11-r1 none none
sys-libs/libieee1284: 0.2.11-r3 none none
x11-proto/xcmiscproto: 1.2.2 none none
x11-proto/xf86rushproto: 1.1.2-r1 none none
x11-proto/bigreqsproto: 1.1.2 none none
x11-proto/trapproto: 3.4.3 none none
x11-proto/xf86dgaproto: 2.1-r2 none none
x11-proto/resourceproto: 1.2.0 none none
x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel: 2.21.15 none none
x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa: 2.3.3 none none
x11-base/xorg-drivers: 1.14 none none
x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics: 1.7.1 none none
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev: 2.8.1 none none
sys-libs/mtdev: 1.1.4 none none
x11-base/xorg-server: 1.14.3-r2 none none
x11-misc/xbitmaps: 1.1.1 none none
x11-apps/xinit: 1.3.3 none none
x11-apps/xrdb: 1.1.0 none none
Clearly, many other packages depend on xorg-server
Code:
~» equery depends xorg-server
 * These packages depend on xorg-server:
app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk-2.10.2 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
app-crypt/gcr-3.10.1 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
app-crypt/libsecret-0.16 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
dev-libs/glib-2.38.2-r1 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
dev-libs/libdbusmenu-qt-0.9.2 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
dev-python/pygobject-2.28.6-r55 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r4 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
dev-util/cmake-2.8.12.2 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
gnome-base/gnome-keyring-3.10.1 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
gnome-base/libglade-2.6.4-r1 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
kde-base/systemsettings-4.11.9 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
media-libs/libkgeomap-3.5.0 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
media-sound/clementine-1.2.1 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
net-libs/glib-networking-2.38.2 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
sys-apps/dbus-1.6.18-r1 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.8.1 (>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.12[udev])
                                   (x11-base/xorg-server[xorg])
                                   (x11-base/xorg-server)
x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.7.1 (>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.12)
                                       (<x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.99)
                                       (x11-base/xorg-server[xorg])
                                       (x11-base/xorg-server)
x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.21.15 (sna ? >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.10)
                                     (dri ? x11-base/xorg-server[-minimal])
                                     (x11-base/xorg-server[xorg])
                                     (x11-base/xorg-server)
x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3 (>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99)
                                  (x11-base/xorg-server[xorg])
                                  (x11-base/xorg-server)
x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.23 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
x11-libs/gtk+-3.10.8 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
x11-libs/gtksourceview-2.10.5-r2 (!prefix ? x11-base/xorg-server[xvfb])
And, at least one of the above packages is in world set:
Code:
~» grep systemsettings /var/lib/portage/world
kde-base/systemsettings
And yet uD world doesn't want to merge anything.
Code:
~» emerge -pvuD world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB
So, what gives? I can not explain this behavior of portage. My emerge --info:
Code:
~» emerge --info
Portage 2.2.8-r1 (default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop, gcc-4.7.3, glibc-2.17, 3.12.13-gentoo x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-3.12.13-gentoo-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-_i7-3537U_CPU_@_2.00GHz-with-gentoo-2.2
KiB Mem:     8024008 total,   5609936 free
KiB Swap:    2047996 total,   2047996 free
Timestamp of tree: Wed, 21 May 2014 11:00:01 +0000
ld GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.23.2
ccache version 3.1.9 [disabled]
app-shells/bash:          4.2_p45
dev-java/java-config:     2.2.0
dev-lang/python:          2.7.5-r3
dev-util/ccache:          3.1.9-r3
dev-util/cmake:           2.8.12.2
dev-util/pkgconfig:       0.28
sys-apps/baselayout:      2.2
sys-apps/openrc:          0.12.4
sys-apps/sandbox:         2.6-r1
sys-devel/autoconf:       2.13, 2.69
sys-devel/automake:       1.11.6, 1.12.6, 1.13.4
sys-devel/binutils:       2.23.2
sys-devel/gcc:            4.7.3-r1
sys-devel/gcc-config:     1.7.3
sys-devel/libtool:        2.4.2
sys-devel/make:           3.82-r4
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 3.9 (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:           2.17
Repositories: gentoo science myself
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="*"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt /usr/share/xsessions"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
/etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo
/etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c"
CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--with-bdeps=y"
FCFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs config-protect-if-modified distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles merge-sync news parallel-fetch preserve-libs protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv usersandbox usersync xattr"
FFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.gg3.net/ http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/gentoo/"
LANG="en_US.UTF8"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --omit-dir-times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/tmp/var_tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/var/lib/layman/science /usr/local/portage"
USE="X a52 aac accessibility acl acpi alsa amd64 aspell avahi avx bash-completion berkdb bluetooth branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdr cli consolekit cracklib crypt cups curl curlwrappers cxx dbus djvu dri drm dts dvd dvdr encode exif fbcon
ffmpeg flac fontconfig ftp fuse g3dvl gallium gdbm gif git gnutls gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 iconv imagemagick inotify jpeg lame latex lcms ldap libsamplerate lzma mad mmap mmx mmx2 mng modules mp3 mp4 mpeg multilib musepack ncurses networkmanager nls nptl ogg opengl openmp oss pam pango pch pcmcia pcre pdf png ppds pth qt3support qt4 readline replaygain savedconfig sdl session smp speex spell sqlite srt sse sse2 ssl ssse3 subversion svg system-sqlite taglib tcpd theora threads tiff truetype udev unicode usb v4l v4l2 vaapi vim-syntax vorbis wifi wmf
x264 xattr xcf xcomposite xft xinerama xml xmp xorg xosd xpm xv xvid xvmc yv12 zeroconf zlib zsh-completion" ABI_X86="64" ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel" APACHE2_MODULES="authn_core authz_core socache_shmcb unixd actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CALLIGRA_FEATURES="kexi words flow plan sheets stage tables krita karbon braindump author" CAMERAS="*" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" ELIBC="glibc" GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ublox ubx" GRUB_PLATFORMS="efi-64"
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev synaptics" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="presenter-console presenter-minimizer" LINGUAS="en en_US" OFFICE_IMPLEMENTATION="libreoffice" PHP_TARGETS="php5-5" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="intel vesa" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options ipset ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tee tarpit sysrq steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account"
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, INSTALL_MASK, LC_ALL, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, SYNC, USE_PYTHON

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the output of
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nlsa8z6zoz7lyih3ap wrote:
What is the output of
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Here it is:
Code:
~» eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/amd64/13.0
  [2]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/selinux
  [3]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop *
  [4]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome
  [5]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome/systemd
  [6]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde
  [7]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde/systemd
  [8]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/developer
  [9]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib
  [10]  default/linux/amd64/13.0/x32
  [11]  hardened/linux/amd64
  [12]  hardened/linux/amd64/selinux
  [13]  hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib
  [14]  hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib/selinux
  [15]  hardened/linux/amd64/x32
  [16]  hardened/linux/uclibc/amd64

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC, since xorg split up into separate packages you've had to put xorg-server into the world set or use a profile that requires xorg-server.

This makes sense since you might log into a headless server and throw X windows to your terminal. The headless servers would not need xorg-server.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I understand it, all of the packages on your system depending on xorg-server are either dependencies of xorg-server itself (e.g. the input/video drivers) or depend on xorg-sever only when the prefix use-flag is unset. The latter seems to be set in most profiles. I am using the default/linux/amd64/13.0 profile, and the only package on my system that is keeping xorg-server from being depcleaned is gnome-base/gdm.

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hypnos wrote:
IIRC, since xorg split up into separate packages you've had to put xorg-server into the world set or use a profile that requires xorg-server.

This makes sense since you might log into a headless server and throw X windows to your terminal. The headless servers would not need xorg-server.
Huh? Using the desktop profile should pull in xorg-server. If I wanted a server, I wouldn't choose the desktop profile, to begin with.

This is besides the point. My main point is that xorg-server has a reverse dependency on systemsettings which is already in the world set. So, xorg-server and its dependencies should automatically be upgraded irrespective of whether it is present in the profile, or world set. At least the tens of gtk+, and kde packages should anyway pull in xorg-server as dependency directly or indirectly.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dlaor wrote:
As I understand it, all of the packages on your system depending on xorg-server are either dependencies of xorg-server itself (e.g. the input/video drivers) or depend on xorg-sever only when the prefix use-flag is unset. The latter seems to be set in most profiles. I am using the default/linux/amd64/13.0 profile, and the only package on my system that is keeping xorg-server from being depcleaned is gnome-base/gdm.

Hope this helps!
prefix should be set for only for Gentoo prefix installations. In fact, prefix is definitely not enabled on my system:
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~» euse -i prefix
global use flags (searching: prefix)
************************************************************
[-     m] prefix - Defines if a Gentoo Prefix offset installation is used

local use flags (searching: prefix)
************************************************************
no matching entries found

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this is way over my head. On my system there is the following line in [portage tree]/profiles/base/make.defaults:
Code:
IUSE_IMPLICIT="prefix"

But have no clue what the suffix "_IMPLICIT" means here. The base profile is part of the amd64 profiles.

Again, this is way above my head; I hope it is useful to you. I would guess that the gtk+ libraries need not depend on the xorg server, for example they might be used with the wayland server instead. Also an application like nautilus (gnomes file-manager) "works" without xorg-server, but it is of course worthless: when started from a tty, the only thing it will display is a warning that it cannot find a display server.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gtk+ does not, nor should not, depend on xorg-server for the reason I explained. Nor does Qt.

gnome and kde do depend on xorg-server because of the X session management, as dlaor pointed out.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Edit: This is not solved. This is just a workaround -- I added xorg-server to the world set, and then the rest of the xorg stuff got upgraded and didn't show up in depclean.
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emerge --noreplace xorg-server


No this IS the solution. It is perfectly possible to have a desktop profile without a GUI. An example given was a headless server, but it isn't neccesary to be a server. Some people hate GUI's and prefer to develop, i.e. embedded software, with command line tools only. Most people who want a GUI choose a GNOME or KDE profile which does bring in the X dependency. I, myself, switched from GNOME to Mate which doesn't have an explicit profile. I switched profiles from Gnome to Desktop. Long ago I added xorg and portage to the world set, so I did not encounter this problem.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. Based on your feedback, I am setting this to solved.

I believe that I did not emerge xorg-server explicitly. I just added some kde packages, gvim, some browsers, etc to my world set and did a world update. This most recent installation is from early last year. And the previous gentoo installation was several years old - I don't remember having to explicitly pull in xorg-server.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to note you should look at xorg-x11 meta instead of xorg-server package.
Nearly the same, but it seems you speak more about keeping the xorg package than xorg-server only.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krinn wrote:
Just to note you should look at xorg-x11 meta instead of xorg-server package.
Nearly the same, but it seems you speak more about keeping the xorg package than xorg-server only.
This wants to pull in 58 new packages, most of them fonts. :)
Code:
~» premerge xorg-x11
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.5  114 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.4  USE="X" 124 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.4  USE="X nls" 346 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.3  USE="X" 369 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 869 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.4  129 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.3  USE="X" 623 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.5  116 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.4  122 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xinput-1.6.1  150 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 97 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5.4  164 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 826 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.3  USE="X" 455 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.5  113 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.4  USE="X nls" 268 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.3  USE="X" 240 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 697 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.6  142 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.4  USE="X nls" 101 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.4  134 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/luit-1.1.1  137 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 608 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.1.1  118 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 100 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 261 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/appres-1.0.4  116 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.4  122 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.4  USE="X" 263 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.7  166 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 110 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.4  102 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 196 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 98 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.3  USE="X" 1,542 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 1,088 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.4  140 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 541 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 257 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 707 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 114 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 171 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.1.3  144 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 106 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 241 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 124 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.2  USE="X" 407 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.3  USE="X" 407 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 99 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.1.3  125 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.1.2  USE="X nls" 138 kB
[ebuild  N     ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.3  USE="X nls" 215 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.1.1  114 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.8  138 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.1.4  USE="-static-libs" ABI_X86="(64) (-32) (-x32)" 274 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.4  2,298 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.3  103 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r2  0 kB

Total: 58 packages (58 new), Size of downloads: 18,059 kB

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't believe you don't use xkill :)
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krinn wrote:
Can't believe you don't use xkill :)
Don't need to. Enlightenment has inbuilt kill functionality! :-)
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do agree that the GUI packages or at least the Window Managers should have a dependency on xorg.
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