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How does the Perl 5.20 upgrade go for you?
No blockers or other problems
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 57%  [ 45 ]
Minor trouble that I could solve myself (please comment)
28%
 28%  [ 22 ]
Help, I'm stuck.
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 14%  [ 11 ]
Total Votes : 78

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:31 pm    Post subject: How did the Perl 5.20 upgrade go for you? Reply with quote

It would be great to have some numbers how well (or not) the new Perl upgrade mechanisms are working.

If you encounter problems, please make sure

  • no perl-core/* packages in your world file /var/lib/portage/world
  • This command
    Code:
    for name in $(qlist -IC 'perl-core/*') ; do equery depends $name ; done
    shows only virtuals depending on perl-core
  • Try upgrading with
    Code:
    emerge -uDNav --backtrack=100 world

  • If this does not work, try upgrading with
    Code:
    emerge -uNav --backtrack=100 world
    (i.e. without -D).

If you're stuck because of "many packages depending on Perl 5.18", attach emerge --info and your full portage output to bug 539414.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No real problems. Just this after running perl cleaner

Quote:

* The following files remain. These were either installed by hand
* or edited. This script cannot deal with them.

/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.18.2/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini


The only curious thing is I definitely haven't edited that file or had them edited outside of Portage. My install is a little over a month old and I would have remembered doing so.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same file left with the same message, and just deleted it after checking that it existed under 5.20*
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dilfridge ...

It's not hit x86 as yet, but I'm not the least bit worried, I'd not had any of the issues reported with 5.18.2-2 (though I did have to do some clean up for PERL5LIB), and looking at the output from the above commands I'm not expecting any with this particular upgrade (fingers crossed). Some of the posts on planet gentoo no doubt helped at the time, and so thanks for that ... and of course the above heads-up.

best ... khay
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perl-core/Module-Build was blocking the update to perl-core/Module-Build but it seems that after I updated it, it resolved itself :roll:
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No big issues : perl-cleaner, and if I had blockers, I removed them manually then called "emerge --update" to rebuild the good ones.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
[I] dev-lang/perl
Available versions: 5.18.2-r2(0/5.18) 5.20.1-r4(0/5.20) {berkdb debug doc gdbm ithreads}
Installed versions: 5.20.1-r4(14:20:33 04.01.2015)(berkdb gdbm -debug -doc -ithreads)
Homepage: http://www.perl.org/
Description: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language


This? Than I can not remember having any mayor issues.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No issues at all here. There were a few blockers that resolved automagickally. Also perl-cleaner did its job with no error.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the perl update went through with no problems. When I started the update, some of the other packages getting updated at the same time had (capital 'B') Blockers. When emerge listed those blockers, it also listed even more issues for Perl. I left the Perl upgrade alone for the moment, and fixed the other issues. After that the Perl update only had (lower case 'B') blockers, and proceeded uneventfully.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depontius wrote:
Actually the perl update went through with no problems. When I started the update, some of the other packages getting updated at the same time had (capital 'B') Blockers. When emerge listed those blockers, it also listed even more issues for Perl. I left the Perl upgrade alone for the moment, and fixed the other issues. After that the Perl update only had (lower case 'B') blockers, and proceeded uneventfully.

That's pretty typical. If all else is fine, the Perl update works. Otherwise, it looks like there are a lot of Perl problems and a little bit something else...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The upgrade had mostly minor issues that were pretty easy to deal with. The --backtrack=100 world tip solved the only major head scratcher I ran into. However, two packages are not able to deal with the upgrade (nvi and graphviz). Bug reports have been opened on both.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dilfridge,

The first time, I ripped all the blockers out by hand until the perl upgrade ran.
The second time I was aware of the one liners to look at the world file and manage the virtuals.
Aftel the update to perl-cleaner, it just worked.

I have about 8 installs, not counting Raspberry Pis, so I got plently of practice.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like subversion also has a problem with the latest perl.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't work out of the box, but following the instructions to update the perl modules and run perl-cleaner etc resolved the blockers.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going with no problems because I didn't even notice there was a perl update.

My complements to the devs :D
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my case, the upgrade went fine, without any issues, but then I've tried "emerge -p --depclean" and this reported some blockers (I believe XML-Simple, XML-LibXML and perl-core/podlators). After running perl-cleaner things were working smoothly again.

So, this upgrade of perl was unbelievably easy :)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No real issues, as at almost all (excepting the first one) perl updates before.
After world's update perl-cleaner check find an atom (dev-perl/Locale-gettext) to be rebuilt (strange thing, that should NOT be).

And another known, but not fixed yet issue:
Orphant file (/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.18.2/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini) without any warning (this file is used and namaged by several dev-perl/* packages, so it can't belong to any _one_ of them).
Exact one was regenerated for Perl-5.20 (/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.20.1/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini).
So, I can just recursively remove /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.18.2.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"emerge -auDN @world" fail for me, then:
"emerge -auDN --backtrack=30 @world" fail too, then
"emerge --deselect $(qlist -IC 'perl-core/*')" and again "emerge -auDN --backtrack=30 @world" work
is building now, for me to make the final "perl-cleaner -all"
Deselect some package is doing it work for me :)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The world update did run smoothly, After the update i do regulary a "emerge --ask --depclean" It complained that dependencies were not fullfilled in perl packages. So i ran "perl-cleaner --all". Afterwards the depclean did run as expected.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
emerge -Ca perl-Module-Build perl-libnet
did the trick for me, fine otherwise.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1
for poll and forum feedback.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had to manually remove perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib, which has apparently become part of dev-lang/perl-5.20*. Portage couldn't figure that out on its own. Otherwise, smooth sailing.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seemed to go alright on my three Gentoo systems. However perl-cleaner --all didn't seem to clean anything or at least everything. All three of my systems reported
Code:

* The following files remain. These were either installed by hand
 * or edited. This script cannot deal with them.

/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/perl.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/op.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/embed.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/pad.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/utfebcdic.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/regexp.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/proto.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/nostdio.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/iperlsys.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/config.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/mg_raw.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/form.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/cop.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/perlio.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/git_version.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/dosish.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/mg_vtable.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/perly.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/parser.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/XSUB.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/gv.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/fakesdio.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/reentr.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/opnames.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/regcomp.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/pp.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/perliol.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/op_reg_common.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/fakethr.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/util.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/thread.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/EXTERN.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/unixish.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/bitcount.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/l1_char_class_tab.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/opcode.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/perlsdio.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/warnings.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/cv.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/utf8.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/regnodes.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/perlvars.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/mg.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/intrpvar.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/mydtrace.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/perlsfio.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/overload.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/pp_proto.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/embedvar.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/INTERN.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/time64_config.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/metaconfig.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/feature.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/keywords.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/time64.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/perlapi.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/handy.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/patchlevel-gentoo.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/uconfig.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/regcharclass.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/malloc_ctl.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/patchlevel.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/sv.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/av.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/hv.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/mg_data.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/uudmap.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/scope.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/CORE/charclass_invlists.h
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/MIME/Base64/Base64.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Sys/Hostname/Hostname.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Sys/Syslog/Syslog.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/IO/IO.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/List/Util/Util.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Devel/Peek/Peek.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Devel/PPPort/PPPort.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/SDBM_File/SDBM_File.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Opcode/Opcode.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Time/Piece/Piece.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Hash/Util/FieldHash/FieldHash.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Hash/Util/Util.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Unicode/Normalize/Normalize.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Unicode/Collate/Collate.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/attributes/attributes.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Filter/Util/Call/Call.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/B/B.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/arybase/arybase.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/threads/threads.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/threads/shared/shared.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Text/Soundex/Soundex.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/GDBM_File/GDBM_File.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Data/Dumper/Dumper.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/NDBM_File/NDBM_File.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Tie/Hash/NamedCapture/NamedCapture.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/POSIX/POSIX.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/re/re.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Socket/Socket.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Storable/Storable.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/PerlIO/mmap/mmap.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/PerlIO/scalar/scalar.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/PerlIO/encoding/encoding.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/PerlIO/via/via.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Math/BigInt/FastCalc/FastCalc.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/I18N/Langinfo/Langinfo.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Compress/Raw/Zlib/Zlib.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Compress/Raw/Bzip2/Bzip2.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Cwd/Cwd.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/mro/mro.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Encode/JP/JP.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Encode/TW/TW.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Encode/Encode.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Encode/CN/CN.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Encode/Unicode/Unicode.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Encode/Symbol/Symbol.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Encode/EBCDIC/EBCDIC.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Encode/KR/KR.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Encode/Byte/Byte.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Digest/MD5/MD5.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/Digest/SHA/SHA.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/i686-linux/auto/IPC/SysV/SysV.so
/usr/lib32/perl5/5.16.3/Encode/encode.h
/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.3/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini
/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.18.2/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini
/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.4/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini
/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.16.3/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.3/x86_64-linux/Encode/ConfigLocal.pm


Not sure what I should do about all the above packages. Never installed any package by hand or edited anything perl related. I sure am open to any ideas.

TIA..... :?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't get anything here to work. Except for manually removing stuff.
Followed part of this and the bug report: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1010432-start-25-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html

Not done yet, but
1) emerge -C ~ the first 10 blockers of >61 blockers
2) Stopped that and emerge -C virtual/perl-*
3) Then emerge =dev-lang/perl-5.20.1-r4:0/5.20
is now emerging 1 of 86. And just finished.
4) perl-cleaner --all
which is doing 1 of 16 now.
5) Looks like good idea to run: perl-cleaner --reallyall also cause wants to upgrade 72 files.
Probably not good idea to reboot anytime during this process.

So far so good. Going to emerge world before reboot.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: How did the Perl 5.20 upgrade go for you? Reply with quote

dilfridge wrote:
It would be great to have some numbers how well (or not) the new Perl upgrade mechanisms are working.

dilfridge ... no issues here whatsoever, it went swimmingly.

Thanks & best ... khay
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