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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:34 pm    Post subject: Germany still ruled by Nazi law Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26047614
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The long arm of Nazi law reaches down even to our own times. The Third Reich might have been destroyed but its legislation on murder remains in force. Some of Germany's most eminent lawyers say it perpetuates injustice, and must be scrubbed out.

A surviving statute from 1941 means that women who kill their abusive husbands are more likely to be jailed for murder than husbands who beat their wives to death.

According to the German Association of Lawyers, the Nazis decided that a murderer was someone who killed "treacherously" or "sneakily" - "heimtueckisch" is the word in the law and it remains there today.


East Germany had a different law, closer to the idea in the UK and many other countries, that murder was about an intention to kill or cause serious injury. But with the unification of Germany in 1990, the law of West Germany became the law of the land.

The Nazi law favoured - and still favours - the strong who murder the weak, Koenig argues.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So? We still have taxes that were introduced by Emperor Wilhelm II.
Why has noone removed them? Because they're taxes - duh.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr.Willy wrote:
So? We still have taxes that were introduced by Emperor Wilhelm II.
Why has noone removed them? Because they're taxes - duh.
Krauts never let go of taxes, you should remember that much :D.

Krautland should get a decent constitution too while they're at it. Anything that starts with "Concious of its responsibility before God [...]" might as well be a fairy tale and should definitely NOT be the first sentence of the preamble to any state's constitution.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a stupid article.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a law that distinguishes between an honest duel and an ambush, and that is bad, because it is German and from the wrong time period?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is a law that distinguishes between an honest duel and an ambush, and that is bad, because it is German and from the wrong time period?
That's not really what the article or the law discussed in it is about.

In a nutshell the law adds a distinction between murder and manslaughter by defining that if you act with malicious intent, without the victim suspecting an attack, or due to sexual depravity, then it must be murder as opposed to manslaughter. Both "honest duels" and "ambushes" are different things, neither of which necessarily mean the victim will die in the first place.

An ambush is a general situation where you maneuver someone else into a strong tactical disadvantage - regardless of whether you kill that person as a result of this disadvantage, although if you did then according to the law it'd definitely be murder. A duel is when two people decide to battle each other - not necessarily to the death, although, again if you did end up killing the other person your lawyer might make a strong case of either "consensual manslaughter" or "gross negligence", depending on the rules that were established beforehand and it'd be unlikely to be defined murder (unless you did something like poison your blade, but then it wouldn't have been an honorable duel).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Germany still ruled by Nazi law Reply with quote

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The Nazi law favoured - and still favours - the strong who murder the weak, Koenig argues.
Oh, OK. From earlier in the article, I thought it was an "equal rights" issue.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ask yourself

what is worse?

planning to kill someone and doing it in a heinous, secret way where the victim has no chance at all

or

beating him to death in a fit of rage

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreeing with Nazi logic is worse
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