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notageek Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 131 Location: MA, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:30 am Post subject: German brewers are making UK, American style beers. |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25807126
Quote: | Eric Toft is on a mission to improve German beer - which is odd because he's an American.
All the same, Mr Toft, the head brewer of a tiny brewery in Bavaria, in the south of the country, politely preaches that Germany's beer-makers should be more adventurous.
In a nation very proud of its beer, he is an outsider who thinks the natives could do better.
Not that Mr Toft looks like an outsider. With his curly fair hair, and the fact he almost always wears lederhosen - the traditional Alpine leather shorts - he could pass for a Bavarian.
Mr Toft, who first went to Germany to study brewing and ended up staying, is brew master at the 234-year-old Schonram brewery, based in the village of the same name near the border between Germany and Austria. |
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juniper l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 763 Location: EU
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:02 am Post subject: |
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If you think you have the best product for too long and are too conservative to change it, the world will pass you by. French food is no longer the gold standard, thank god. _________________
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Naib Watchman


Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 5273 Location: Removed by Neddy
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:17 am Post subject: |
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juniper wrote: | If you think you have the best product for too long and are too conservative to change it, the world will pass you by. French food is no longer the gold standard, thank god. | I am still amazed at how French food was ever considered good... its all stodgy... they can't even boil veg _________________ The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 131 Location: MA, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Um... what other food did you consider good?
I've been to France and I've had French food, so I don't understand your comment. _________________ "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated, until defeat has been accepted as a reality." -- Bruce Lee |
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Naib Watchman


Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 5273 Location: Removed by Neddy
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:46 am Post subject: |
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I spend alot of time in France, I eat alot at their "canteens", their posh hotels, their posh restaurants and their cafe's
Simply put they do not know how to cook vegetables (except in Ratatouille). When it is good it is good, but on average and when it is bad... it is stodgy, soggy... etc... Now maybe boiling runner beans soo much that they almost turn into soup is what passes and the peak of the world culinary expertise but I like to eat my veg not drink it.
I'm not even going to go down the route that "English food is great" because at the end of the day its personal choice BUT french food and the french food style is not worth the reputation it had. _________________ The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:50 am Post subject: |
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You're a vegetarian? _________________ "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated, until defeat has been accepted as a reality." -- Bruce Lee |
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Naib Watchman


Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 5273 Location: Removed by Neddy
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:34 am Post subject: |
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not at all, but I do like decently cooked veg _________________ The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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mrbassie Guru

Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 488
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:41 am Post subject: |
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What's the point? You can do that at home yourself. Drink half your Bavarian beer, wait a while, piss it back into the glass, give it a stir, hey presto! |
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e3k Apprentice


Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 292 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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in the end it is an article propagating GMO hops... _________________ --_o_-- |
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John-Boy Guru


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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Naib wrote: | not at all, but I do like decently cooked veg |
There's that old joke about mother putting the Christmas sprouts on in September. _________________ Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood" |
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porodzila Guru


Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 307 Location: Terrapin Station
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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They will be able to keep their reputation as long as they don't start brewing Italian beers. _________________ ubi primum potero, me hinc subduco. |
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Clad in Sky l33t


Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 841 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:13 am Post subject: Re: German brewers are making UK, American style beers. |
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notageek wrote: | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25807126
Quote: | With his curly fair hair, and the fact he almost always wears lederhosen. |
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Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 686 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:33 am Post subject: |
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juniper wrote: | If you think you have the best product for too long and are too conservative to change it, the world will pass you by. French food is no longer the gold standard, thank god. |
For European food, I do like a lot of French food. Italian is just much better. _________________ People Of Love
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Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 686 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:34 am Post subject: |
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mrbassie wrote: | What's the point? You can do that at home yourself. Drink half your Bavarian beer, wait a while, piss it back into the glass, give it a stir, hey presto! |
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o'bogamol Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 90 Location: Detroit, Michigan - The Home of Rock and Roll
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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We joke that English food is the best because once you've thrown all of the ingredients on a pot, the cook can come out and enjoy the party! _________________ "History began on July 4,1776. Everything before that was a mistake." -Ron Swanson |
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djdunn l33t


Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 765 Location: Arrakis
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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English food is disgusting
need some truly american food like eh... chinese food... _________________ A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it.
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juniper l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 763 Location: EU
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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John-Boy wrote: | Naib wrote: | not at all, but I do like decently cooked veg |
There's that old joke about mother putting the Christmas sprouts on in September. |
i hate boiled to oblivion sprouts. waterlogged and vomitous.
cut in half, boil or steam, then fry in butter until the water is gone. add some pecans. add a little sweet (honey or maple syrup. don
t go crazy. just a little). yum. _________________
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energyman76b Advocate


Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2045 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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what is 'french food'?
The stuff you get in a motel - where potatoes count as 'vegetables', and a steak is put in a contact grill until it burned on the outside and raw on the inside?
The fish dishes in the Bretagne? Which are delicious. Or their 'national' food. Which is very fatty and filling (including onions seared in lots of butter, fatty meat and a cabbage soup whose influence can carry you to Moscow and back)?
The stuff in the Elsaß (it is Elsaß not Alsace or other gay stuff, thank you a lot)? Which means heavy. lots of Sauerkraut and in dire need of some hot mustard (or very delciously made of all the stuff you find in the animal after taking away all those pesky muscles).
I have eaten french food a lot of times. But I never ate 'french cuisine'. I did eat what the peasants, workers and normal people in that region ate. Which was pretty much always not that much different from the stuff at home. With the exception of some local specialities which were awesome - and you will never find in some posh restaurant. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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mdeininger Veteran


Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1740 Location: Emerald Isles, observing Dublin's docklands
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Meh, only sane food I've had lately was Creole. Most 'indigenous' dishes around here are gross, bordering on barbaric. That includes 80% of Swabian menu items, 90% of the remaining Krautland dishes and close to 90% of what they serve in France. And I'd not even mention Krautland beer in polite conversation - good thing this ain't one, so I can quite confidently claim that Krautland beer is among the worst on the friggen planet. Even Miller tastes better, and that kinda tastes like regurgitated cat piss with sugar. So yeah, here's hoping the guy has some luck. _________________ "Confident, lazy, cocky, dead." -- Felix Jongleur, Otherland
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