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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:49 am    Post subject: Girl mistakenly shot and killed by stepfather Reply with quote

http://www.koaa.com/news/girl-mistakenly-shot-and-killed-by-stepfather/

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A 14-year-old Colorado Springs girl is dead today after her stepfather shot her early this morning. Police on the scene tell News5 that the shooting is believed to be accidental.

Colorado Springs Police responded to the 4000th block of Ascendant Drive after hearing that there was a burglary in progress, and that shots had been fired.

Once on scene officers found the 14-year-old girl in the basement with a gunshot wound to the chest, and rushed her to the hospital.

Scanner traffic obtained by News 5 suggests that the teen was coming in through a window.

The girl passed away shortly after arriving at the hospital, and police are continuing their investigation at this time.


See here is the thing, having the right to defend your property by force *IF* you legitimately feel threatened makes sense and with Colorado’s “Make My Day” law he will get off free. But where exactly did the home owner feel physically threatened in this instance? Seems like some batshit paranoia resulting in shoot 1st
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Mistakenly", right.

He was trying to save money on his monthly food bill.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: Girl mistakenly shot and killed by stepfather Reply with quote

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where exactly did the home owner feel physically threatened in this instance? Seems like some batshit paranoia resulting in shoot 1st
Oh, OK. He's got to be on the ground having his head slammed into it before its acceptable. Oh, wait. That's not Good Enough either.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darwin in action.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Darwin in action.


if he had shot himself - sure.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BoneKracker wrote:
Darwin in action.
if he had shot himself - sure.

She was his step-daughter too, so he didn't even manage to eliminate a member of his own gene pool.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Girl mistakenly shot and killed by stepfather Reply with quote

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where exactly did the home owner feel physically threatened in this instance? Seems like some batshit paranoia resulting in shoot 1st
Oh, OK. He's got to be on the ground having his head slammed into it before its acceptable. Oh, wait. That's not Good Enough either.
nice escalation... He didn't even determine by any means.. Just pewpewpew. Even the police announce their presence and intent
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More gun violence stories from the USA, please.
LOL USA
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atleast this was kind of "suspicious" activity. Here in NZ we go hunting and shoot tourists, friends, family, shit we can even skip bullets off lakes and kill someone driving a car with their window down a mile away. We even occasionally manage to kill a deer or a pig, I think thats statisically less like though. :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
"Mistakenly", right.

He was trying to save money on his monthly food bill.


We'll never know. That's what happens when people get shot. You don't get to hear their version of events.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
Muso wrote:
"Mistakenly", right.

He was trying to save money on his monthly food bill.


We'll never know. That's what happens when people get shot. You don't get to hear their version of events.


As opposed to when people get stabbed to death, beaten to death, killed by a car, killed by a hammer... and just continue to speak as a corpse :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
juniper wrote:
Muso wrote:
"Mistakenly", right.

He was trying to save money on his monthly food bill.


We'll never know. That's what happens when people get shot. You don't get to hear their version of events.


As opposed to when people get stabbed to death, beaten to death, killed by a car, killed by a hammer... and just continue to speak as a corpse :lol:

Notice how people rarely get stabbed, beaten or hammered mistakenly. As opposed to pre-emptively shot.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dwbowyer wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
Darwin in action.
if he had shot himself - sure.

She was his step-daughter too, so he didn't even manage to eliminate a member of his own gene pool.

Oh, I thought it was his own daughter. That would be Darwin by virtue of preventing the continuation of his genes.

It's Darwin anyway, though, by preventing the continuation of her genes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

genstorm wrote:
Muso wrote:
juniper wrote:
Muso wrote:
"Mistakenly", right.

He was trying to save money on his monthly food bill.


We'll never know. That's what happens when people get shot. You don't get to hear their version of events.


As opposed to when people get stabbed to death, beaten to death, killed by a car, killed by a hammer... and just continue to speak as a corpse :lol:

Notice how people rarely get stabbed, beaten or hammered mistakenly. As opposed to pre-emptively shot.

Untrue. Accidents are the number one non-medical cause of death, with firearm accidents being an almost insignificant percentage of the total.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
genstorm wrote:
Muso wrote:
juniper wrote:
Muso wrote:
"Mistakenly", right.

He was trying to save money on his monthly food bill.


We'll never know. That's what happens when people get shot. You don't get to hear their version of events.


As opposed to when people get stabbed to death, beaten to death, killed by a car, killed by a hammer... and just continue to speak as a corpse :lol:

Notice how people rarely get stabbed, beaten or hammered mistakenly. As opposed to pre-emptively shot.

Untrue. Accidents are the number one non-medical cause of death, with firearm accidents being an almost insignificant percentage of the total.


Sure. But very rarely do people stage a car accident to commit an intentional homicide.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sure. But very rarely do people stage a car accident to commit an intentional homicide.
So you're concerned with staged gun accidents when done to commit intentional homicide?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
genstorm wrote:
Muso wrote:
juniper wrote:
Muso wrote:
"Mistakenly", right.

He was trying to save money on his monthly food bill.


We'll never know. That's what happens when people get shot. You don't get to hear their version of events.


As opposed to when people get stabbed to death, beaten to death, killed by a car, killed by a hammer... and just continue to speak as a corpse :lol:

Notice how people rarely get stabbed, beaten or hammered mistakenly. As opposed to pre-emptively shot.

Untrue. Accidents are the number one non-medical cause of death, with firearm accidents being an almost insignificant percentage of the total.


Sure. But very rarely do people stage a car accident to commit an intentional homicide.

Untrue. Faked car accidents are a very common means of concealing a homicide. The cut brake line has become a cliche, as has pushing a car off a cliff or into a lake with an unconscious person in it. Heck, Ted Kennedy did it.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Untrue. Faked car accidents are a very common means of concealing a homicide. The cut brake line has become a cliche, as has pushing a car off a cliff or into a lake with an unconscious person in it. Heck, Ted Kennedy did it.


very common ? :lol: movie cliches don't make proper statistics.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the sound of one lip flapping?

You think it's more common for someone to intentionally shoot a family member whom they just happened to know would be climbing through a basement window? That was the comparison being made. Who's the one watching too many movies?

If you want to kill somebody and have it judged an accident, then using a weapon is about the worst idea you can come up with. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is the sound of one lip flapping?

You think it's more common for someone to intentionally shoot a family member whom they just happened to know would be climbing through a basement window? That was the comparison being made. Who's the one watching too many movies?

If you want to kill somebody and have it judged an accident, then using a weapon is about the worst idea you can come up with. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.


except in america where some gun nuts will always find some excuses.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you guys ever stop arguing about gun laws?
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Greens wrote:
Do you guys ever stop arguing about gun laws?


yes! of course! Sometimes we argue about health care systems or racism.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greens wrote:
Do you guys ever stop arguing about gun laws?
you new here ?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can't help it. Gun laws in Europe are an extension of the old class systems in which the masses were oppressed by the aristocracy and forbidden such things, lest they poach game from the land of their Lords, or, heaven forbid, resist their oppression. They remain oppressed, they remain forbidden such things, and they remain in denial, with people like cokehabit blurting out such things as "it's important for people to know their place and respect their betters". How can you discuss individual rights with people who believe in their hearts that they don't deserve them?
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BoneKracker wrote:
They can't help it. Gun laws in Europe are an extension of the old class systems in which the masses were oppressed by the aristocracy and forbidden such things, lest they poach game from the land of their Lords, or, heaven forbid, resist their oppression. They remain oppressed, they remain forbidden such things, and they remain in denial, with people like cokehabit blurting out such things as "it's important for people to know their place and respect their betters". How can you discuss individual rights with people who believe in their hearts that they don't deserve them?


and that is why all I need to do if I want to own a semi-auto is too join a shooters club?

yeah, sure. Please shove that bullshit somewhere it does not stink up this place.
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