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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:24 am    Post subject: Duck, Duck, no more! Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25444631

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US reality star Phil Robertson has been suspended from his TV show following derogatory remarks about homosexuality.

Robertson had been asked to describe sin by GQ magazine, and replied: "Start with homosexual behaviour and just morph out from there."

He went on to paraphrase the Bible, condemning bestiality and adultery.

TV network A&E said it was "extremely disappointed", adding the comments were based on Robertson's "personal beliefs" and "in no way reflect those of A&E".

More than 9m viewers regularly watch reality sitcom Duck Dynasty in the US.

It follows the lives of the Robertson family, a clan with old-fashioned values who live together in Louisiana, running their multi-million family business, Duck Commander - which makes products for duck hunters.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the world would agree with him. It's only we few enlightened humanists of secular, educated Western society who irreverently laugh at such people. Homosexuality is still a crime in most of the world (like your country, for example).
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most of the world would agree with him. It's only we few enlightened humanists of secular, educated Western society who irreverently laugh at such people. Homosexuality is still a crime in most of the world (like your country, for example).
Hear, hear!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twerk, twerk is revelled but duck, duck ... well ...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glen Beck has his own channel and media company now. MAYBE they can manage to bring it back.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huge backlash mounts over suspension of ‘Duck Dynasty’ star Phil Robertson
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/19/duck-dynasty-star-sparks-culture-war-with-opinions/
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do like how certain groups profess tolerance, but are intolerant of others. I have zero respect for Those People.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dude has every right to his opinion, and A&E has every right to fire him, and his family has every right to tell A&E to drop dead. A&E needs Duck Dynasty far more than they need A&E.

Camille Paglia, one of the most intellectually honest people I've read, calls the uproar against Robertson, "utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist."
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The dude has every right to his opinion, and A&E has every right to fire him, and his family has every right to tell A&E to drop dead. A&E needs Duck Dynasty far more than they need A&E.
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In A&E's defense, the culture is at a point where A&E would have been criticized for NOT doing something like what they chose to do. So, if they restore Phil & the show (which I've never watched and never plan to), will people offer support for them, or just go away quietly.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear the TROMP TROMP TROMP of the hob-nailed boots of the PC Brigade. Liberal Fascists.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, A&E was screwed. If they didn't do anything, the same people attacking them now, would have crucified them.

Oh, playing the morale card. Always fun.

That said, this guy might be anti-gay - but he is not racist and he takes some of the more obscure christian tennets pretty serious. Like helping others in need.

You can be sure, if a gay negro hungry and cold would knock on his door - this guy would let him in, feed him - and show him how to catch&skin a squirrel so he won't be hungry again.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do homos garner so much support? Is it because the Nazis persecuted them?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why do homos garner so much support? Is it because the Nazis persecuted them?


that is not the reason - or do you see people openly defending gypsies all over the world? Or Jehova's witnesses? Or Freemasons?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why do homos garner so much support? Is it because the Nazis persecuted them?
First they came ...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie Sheen blasts Duck Dynasty Star

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Drug-Addled Wifebeater Arrives to Deliver Moral Clarity


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracker Barrel bows to pressure
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cracker Barrel bows to pressure


Idiotic pressure. A&E owns the "Duck Dynasty" brand. The Robertson's own the "Duck Commander" brand. Cracker Barrel was continuing to sell the Duck Commander brand and only removed the Duck Dynasty brand.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol

idiotic management anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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idiotic management anyway.


Agreed. Trigger happy responses to "outrage" are never wise.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy sounds like a lunatic.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The show is horrible btw. I don't understand its appeal.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Genuine Conflict Being Ignored in the Duck Dynasty Debate

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An evangelical Christian points out that there is, in fact, a tension between orthodox Christianity and homosexuality. Saying otherwise robs American society of an honest debate about how to reconcile sexual tolerance with religious tolerance.

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Missing in the controversy over A&E’s handling of its golden goose—or duck, rather—is the fact that the real conflict here is not between Robertson and A&E; it is between gay activists and a solid majority of Christians who believe homosexual acts are wrong. Again, Robertson’s views are hardly anomalous. Christians may disagree on the details, but the Bible strongly condemns homosexuality in both the Old and New Testaments; the marriage model of one man and one woman is first given by God in Genesis 2 and reiterated by Jesus in Matthew 19; and in Romans 1 the Apostle Paul denounces homosexuality as a hallmark of a degenerate culture. The point here isn’t that you have to believe any of this, but many Christians do believe it and feel morally bound to believe it.

Instead of acknowledging this tension, however, A&E, GLAAD, and their supporters have responded with disingenuous expressions of shock and horror. And it matters that it's disingenuous, because if they actually acknowledged that there is a genuine conflict between orthodox Christianity and homosexual sex (along with several forms of heterosexual sex) they would have to confront head-on the fact that calling for a boycott or pressuring for Robertson's suspension tells orthodox Christians that their religion is no longer acceptable, and that’s not a very politically correct thing to do. Right now, they are trying to weasel out of it by characterizing Robertson as a backwoods bigot who takes his moral cues from Deliverance rather than from a straightforward reading of the Bible and the historic teachings of the Christian religion.


Good article.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An evangelical Christian points out that there is, in fact, a tension between orthodox Christianity and homosexuality. Saying otherwise robs American society of an honest debate about how to reconcile sexual tolerance with religious tolerance.

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Missing in the controversy over A&E’s handling of its golden goose—or duck, rather—is the fact that the real conflict here is not between Robertson and A&E; it is between gay activists and a solid majority of Christians who believe homosexual acts are wrong.
Given the history of being wrong and persecuting others they disagree with, they're pretty much on the losing end. I support their right to believe in whatever gobbledegook they choose, but I also support the rights of others to criticize them.

I do have a solution before they get their panties in a wad. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The outrage is so phony though. Had these people (A&E, GLAAD) never read a bible before? They have a show about a deeply religious family living in the swamps of Louisiana, and they are shocked that they aren't "celebrating the rainbow"?
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I don't agree that it is phony. At least not any more than the Christians "outraged" at the reaction by A&E, GLAAD.
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