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lefsha
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| eyoung100 wrote: | | if you use openrc you must use consolekit. If you're going to use systemd, you won't need consolekit, but be aware systemd is quite different. |
Wow! That is kind of discovery! Why just consolekit and not adobe reader? Adobe reader is also nice program.
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| lefsha wrote: | | eyoung100 wrote: | | if you use openrc you must use consolekit. If you're going to use systemd, you won't need consolekit, but be aware systemd is quite different. |
Wow! That is kind of discovery! Why just consolekit and not adobe reader? Adobe reader is also nice program. |
OpenRC requires access to PAM and the plugdev group. IIRC PAM attaxhes itself to consolekit only.
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| eyoung100 wrote: | | OpenRC requires access to PAM and the plugdev group. IIRC PAM attaxhes itself to consolekit only. |
I think lefsha's point was the phrase "you must". There is absolutely no "must" for pam or consolekit. You "must" use these things only if you want to use fancy authentification methods or certain questionable features like "fast user switching" (or if you want to use programs which without any need depend on these two programs). Fortunately, it is (currently) perfectly possible to run a reasonable system using openrc without having pam, consolekit/systemd-equivalent, or any *kit-stuff installed (by just replacing the broken programs which unconditionally depend on these tools by something which behaves reasonable). |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| eyoung100 wrote: | | OpenRC requires access to PAM and the plugdev group. IIRC PAM attaxhes itself to consolekit only. |
Oh! Every day news... Talking this way we can end up with the phrase, that openrc requires systemd to work properly...
Of course you are totally wrong! I will leave you to discover why by yourself. OK?
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| mv wrote: | | There is absolutely no "must" for pam or consolekit. You "must" use these things only if you want to use fancy authentification methods or certain questionable features like "fast user switching" (or if you want to use programs which without any need depend on these two programs). Fortunately, it is (currently) perfectly possible to run a reasonable system using openrc without having pam, consolekit/systemd-equivalent, or any *kit-stuff installed (by just replacing the broken programs which unconditionally depend on these tools by something which behaves reasonable). |
Without mention my name this text must be part of gentoo handbook. Otherwise we all will end up with systemd dependence for adobe reader. I am not kidding, just read this thread.
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