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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:03 am    Post subject: Criminal charges for lolgov ack of NSA letters Reply with quote

If they can accidentally acknowledge their own fascism, certainly it is precedent for others to do the same.

Or, you know, the Constitution could server as that precedent.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious as to your position. What's the deal in outing Google? They've been the most vocal of the opposition to the NSL program.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
I'm curious as to your position. What's the deal in outing Google? They've been the most vocal of the opposition to the NSL program.
That is his deal. Google has been the most vocal in opposition but probably the most cooperative in action.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, and what else do you expect them to do?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I expressed that clearly. The point is, Google seems to be saying something while doing something else totally.

Google to the public: "We oppose blah blah blah. We don't allow access blah blah blah."

Google to the govt: "Yes, sir, right away. Here's Mr Foo credentials and you may do as you please. Is there anything else you need?"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what, other providers aren't doing this? Google provides:

1. Email service.
2. Social networking.
3. Instant messaging.
4. Online mapping.
5. Telephony with voicemail.
6. Financial payment (Google Wallet).
7. Search
8. Other stuff I don't remember right now.

It makes sense that they service more requests than anyone else.

EDIT: Don't forget about the elephant in the room, Google Drive.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get an interview call from them?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
I'm curious as to your position. What's the deal in outing Google? They've been the most vocal of the opposition to the NSL program.
My position is that the government needs a switft kick in the arse. My point in posting it is that the government forbids anyone from acknowledging the existence of the letters, and yet they did just that. Therefore, the government should be similarly punished as would some other person acknowledging the letters.
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