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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clad in Sky wrote:
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Samsung 840

I was considering getting one of those.
Seems to work for you, yes?

Very happy with mine, but it's overkill for a low end machine. Just get whatever SSD is on sale.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Dell Lattitudes have some kind of TrackPoint. I may have to consider one. Though I'm hesitant, given Dell's quality history.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Apparently Dell Lattitudes have some kind of TrackPoint. I may have to consider one. Though I'm hesitant, given Dell's quality history.

The one I've got has a trackpoint, a touchpad, and a nice capacitive screen (DuoSense) on which you can use your fingers or the stylus. I find the trackpoint inferior to that on ThinkPads, but I think it's mainly just that they have a rubber tip on it and the red, fibrous type works better for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never buy Dell. I had a corporate Dell laptop.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds similar to what HP laptops use. :(
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
Never buy Dell. I had a corporate Dell laptop.

I've had mostly good luck with them. There was a period during which they weren't living up to expectations. I've had probably half a dozen Dells. All of them were great except one (a laptop around 2003) which sucked. The most recent machine I bought from them (a desktop with a six-core Phenom II) is excellent.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dell laptops have different quality standards based on whether you're a corporate user or home user. So, if you buy any of the home user line laptop, you're unlikely to get a good laptop and you can't buy Dell corporate laptops from retailer.

It is random is all I'm saying.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they ship all the Friday Afternoon units to India?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
if you buy any of the home user line laptop, you're unlikely to get a good laptop and you can't buy Dell corporate laptops from retailer.

It is random is all I'm saying.
That disparity isn't uncommon from other manufacturers. That's why the corporate laptops exist, to meet those needs.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every Dell I have owned has worked great, but they were all business grade units.

But HP is so bad that even the business grade laptops fail in great numbers. Their servers, however, are quite solid.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally settled (well, mostly) for a laptop . It'll have a Samsung 840 SSD 128GB.
Since I've never had an SSD I'm not totally sure about whether or not it is a good idea to install Gentoo (I think there was a discussion about that some time ago) on such a drive, with the many writing operations that occur while emerging stuff. Then again, modern SSDs have had some time to overcome their initial weaknesses.
So, would you recommend installing Gentoo on an SSD or rather not?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clad in Sky wrote:
I finally settled (well, mostly) for a laptop . It'll have a Samsung 840 SSD 128GB.
Since I've never had an SSD I'm not totally sure about whether or not it is a good idea to install Gentoo (I think there was a discussion about that some time ago) on such a drive, with the many writing operations that occur while emerging stuff. Then again, modern SSDs have had some time to overcome their initial weaknesses.
So, would you recommend installing Gentoo on an SSD or rather not?
If you have enough ram, why not? I compile on 4G (out of 8G) ram, my /tmp is actually a tmpfs partition, and my /usr/portage is on one of those really small usb flash drives that you can insert and forget (alternative is to use a microsd card if your laptop has support for that).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ppurka wrote:
my /usr/portage is on one of those really small usb flash drives
Interesting. How long does it take to sync portage?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ppurka wrote:
Clad in Sky wrote:
I finally settled (well, mostly) for a laptop . It'll have a Samsung 840 SSD 128GB.
Since I've never had an SSD I'm not totally sure about whether or not it is a good idea to install Gentoo (I think there was a discussion about that some time ago) on such a drive, with the many writing operations that occur while emerging stuff. Then again, modern SSDs have had some time to overcome their initial weaknesses.
So, would you recommend installing Gentoo on an SSD or rather not?
If you have enough ram, why not? I compile on 4G (out of 8G) ram, my /tmp is actually a tmpfs partition, and my /usr/portage is on one of those really small usb flash drives that you can insert and forget (alternative is to use a microsd card if your laptop has support for that).


It would have 4GB of RAM.
I just read an article (anandtech) stating that the Samsung 840 should last around 11 years at a daily write load of 10GiB. This is way more than this laptop is likely to see in a week if not emerging heavily.

Still pondering whether to put Gentoo or Mint on it. Since the laptop is for my mother and no matter which OS is on it I'll have to do the maintenance, I'm thinking Gentoo might be good. I kinda know my way around Gentoo. Then again, Mint is not bad and even though I haven't worked with it, much, it's probably not a problem to sort out issues there.
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