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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:02 pm    Post subject: WebTV: Cubavisión Internacional Reply with quote

Cuba is developing internet. First, they put a cable between Cuba and Venezuela, and now they are developing the infrastructure both into the country and for the world. Private internet access are now possible via phone lines.

They have 4 TV channels in the country, and local channels as well, 2 of them are educational channels with all kind of contents like mathematics, history or language courses. The others channels are generalist channels.

Cubavision Internacional is a generalist channel that can be received via satellite, and is now also on the web: cick on TV en Vivo

See also Cuba Portal.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why the fuck do I want to view Cuban government propaganda via their state controlled press?

I get enough of that from my own country.

Four TV channels! WOW!

State controlled internet! WOW!

And you are bragging about this? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Switzerland where I am living, I can get plenty of channels from the whole world with a simple cable connection. In the US, with the same cable connection, you get plenty of channels in different languages, but all from the same country.

To answer your question, I am not you, so I cannot tell you. For me, I have family in Cuba, and I like good music.

If you prefer the Swiss TV: http://www.rts.ch/
Swedish TV: http://www.svt.se/

or my favorite radio program: http://www.radiozones.com/
It is an associative radio.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The internet already exists... so are they developing a country-wide intranet?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't they watch/listen to all the South Florida media?

Oh yeah, their government won't allow it, with the threat of imprisonment.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all seriousness, I would like to see the US end this silly embargo.

I want to see a Major League Baseball club in Havana.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In all seriousness, I would like to see the US end this silly embargo.
Maybe if they offered some ideological sacrifices and cheap labor like China.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another news source
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's another news source


Its big news:
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This home page is provided by Korea News Service (KNS) in Tokyo


So North Korea invaded Japan under the night and all the western medias didn't even see the differences.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dominique_71 wrote:
Muso wrote:
Here's another news source


Its big news:
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This home page is provided by Korea News Service (KNS) in Tokyo


So North Korea invaded Japan under the night and all the western medias didn't even see the differences.


More like North Korea doesn't have the internet and have to use a server in a non-cuba-esque country to be able to spread their propaganda outside of their own borders.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
Why the fuck do I want to view Cuban government propaganda via their state controlled press?

I get enough of that from my own country.

Four TV channels! WOW!

State controlled internet! WOW!

And you are bragging about this? :lol: :lol: :lol:


Wonderful. You said your national media are propaganda via state controlled press, and you repeat that propaganda when you said its state propaganda controlled press in Cuba.

But you are right. Even in Switzerland its state propaganda. :lol:

Now, you can see Cuban baseball at the internet.

And for the state controlled internet, the NSA is an US nightmare, not a Cuban one.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
Dominique_71 wrote:
Muso wrote:
Here's another news source


Its big news:
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This home page is provided by Korea News Service (KNS) in Tokyo


So North Korea invaded Japan under the night and all the western medias didn't even see the differences.


More like North Korea doesn't have the internet and have to use a server in a non-cuba-esque country to be able to spread their propaganda outside of their own borders.


The korean state have a better website: http://www.korea-dpr.com/

BTW, you know as a US citizen you can travel to North Korea but not in Cuba?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW, you know as a US citizen you can travel to North Korea but not in Cuba?

That sucks. I have no interest in ever visiting DPRK, but would love to go to Cuba.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dominique_71 wrote:
BTW, you know as a US citizen you can travel to North Korea but not in Cuba?


Right you are.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
Dominique_71 wrote:
BTW, you know as a US citizen you can travel to North Korea but not in Cuba?

That sucks. I have no interest in ever visiting DPRK, but would love to go to Cuba.


You can always travel to Cuba by another country like Canada or Venezuela.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Old School wrote:
Dominique_71 wrote:
BTW, you know as a US citizen you can travel to North Korea but not in Cuba?

That sucks. I have no interest in ever visiting DPRK, but would love to go to Cuba.


You can always travel to Cuba by another country like Canada or Venezuela.

I'll wait until they get the Major League Baseball franchise.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The korean state have a better website: http://www.korea-dpr.com/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Friendship_Association

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Kim Jong-il's 'useful idiots' in the West

The term "useful idiots" has been widely used over the years to describe apologists from Western democracies who could be counted upon to offer slavish praise despite obvious evidence of egregiousness within the system they supported. During Joseph Stalin's reign of terror there was the infamous Walter Duranty, a correspondent for the New York Times who in 1932 won the Pulitzer Prize for his glowing prose praising Stalin and the communist utopia he was building. Duranty chose to ignore the malice of the regime, the brutality of Stalin's forces and the fact that Stalin's "communist utopia" was being built through the enslavement of more than 10 million people. He also failed to publicly note that some 11 million Kulaks were liquidated under Stalin's plan.

During the rise of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia there were more examples of false portrayals for Western consumption. In April 1975, Sydney Schanberg, another New York Times correspondent, declared while the Khmer Rouge prepared to lobotomize the nation that "for the ordinary people of Indochina...it is difficult to imagine how their lives could be anything but better with the Americans gone." He won a Pulitzer Prize, while Pol Pot's bloody excesses left more than two million people dead.

Decades later the world has arguably more useful idiots filing copy to any manner of agencies than ever before. Kim Jong il's useful idiots have formed a club called the Korea Friendship Association (KFA). The group's website is strikingly similar to North Korea's official government web site; the official Democratic People's Republic of Korea website links directly to it. The KFA indicates clearly that they enjoy the "support and endorsement" of the Northern regime - Kim Jong-il certified. The group's activities include "information" seminars where the enlightened benevolence of Kim's rule is championed, all part of its "alternative" view of the North. The ragged wretched displays of poverty and starvation are edited out and the voice of North Koreans not in the direct employ of Kim Jong-il are conspicuously absent. In place of uncomfortable reality, the KFA offers vacation photos of "their" North Korea taken during recent, state supported visits, complete with bowling, golf, amusement parks and Karaoke with young female party members. Members write glowing pieces, oblations celebrating Kim Jong-il's wise rule. No starving people, torture, summary execution, penury or despair in the Korean Friendship Association's North Korea. Just golf, great meals and evenings in the company of Kim Jong-il's beauties.

That useful idiots like these exist and profit from a system that inflicts so much hardship and misery on millions of people is difficult enough to understand; these organizations exist in various countries. But when Canada's Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade offers its financial support, it beggars belief.


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The Havana Warheads?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Havana Warheads?


Nice one!
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Clinton on Cuban WebTV with a smoking hot Cuban sex toy. Please :P
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: WebTV: Cubavisión Internacional Reply with quote

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Cuba is developing internet. First, they put a cable between Cuba and Venezuela, and now they are developing the infrastructure both into the country and for the world. Private internet access are now possible via phone lines.

They have 4 TV channels in the country, and local channels as well, 2 of them are educational channels with all kind of contents like mathematics, history or language courses. The others channels are generalist channels.

Cubavision Internacional is a generalist channel that can be received via satellite, and is now also on the web: cick on TV en Vivo

See also Cuba Portal.

Congratulations, you are catching up to North Korea.

Edit: shit, Muso beat me to it. :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why the fuck do I want to view Cuban government propaganda via their state controlled press?

I get enough of that from my own country.

Four TV channels! WOW!

State controlled internet! WOW!

And you are bragging about this? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can access it over phone lines, if you're a member of the privileged class who have a phone.

Of course, you know why this is happening now, right? The Castro Regime is watching what Obama has done with the Internet, and they have realized they are missing out on a powerful tool of authoritarian oppression.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can access it over phone lines, if you're a member of the privileged class who have a phone.

Sure, and I guess you too. You even have the internet.

And I can insure you that a phone call in Cuba is one of the cheapest in the world. The price is the same for both mobile and table net, and between the 2 nets, around a few centavos for a call, even a long one. A phone call to other countries is one of the most expensive because of the US blockade, Cuba must use satellite, which cost a lot of money.

Because of the US blockade, their only decent connection to internet was by satellite, which cost a lot of money. At that time, only administrations and ordinary peoples that must have internet for their work was having internet.

The US said this was because Cuba is a dictatorship, when in fact the Cuban State was not willing to subvention internet by satellite for its citizens like it already subvention the phone calls for the internal traffic.

Now, Cuba have a cable between Venezuela and the Island, and they just begin to develop the infrastructure. The US have the NSA, but the US still say the dictatorship is not in the US but in Cuba :lol: It is more cops by citizen in the US today than in the USSR of Stalin, but for the "free" world, the US is a free country. It remain me a few decade ago when the socialists was saying the USSR is a free country :lol: :lol: :lol: We all now the end of that kind of free world.

Also, it is a big difference between Lenin's Russian, Slatine's USSR, and Castro's Cuba. Lenin's Russia was the first Jewish controlled State (between 80 to 100 % of all the power positions in the administration, the State, the party, the army, the police and the secret police was in hands of Jewish peoples) - that is before the Jewish controlled Palestine, but at the same time the first kibbutzim. Staline's USSR was also Jewish controlled. In Cuba, one of the first achievement of the revolution was to get ride of the Jewish mafia. They returned them to the sender :lol:
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You can access it over phone lines, if you're a member of the privileged class who have a phone.

Sure, and I guess you too. You even have the internet.

And I can insure you that a phone call in Cuba is one of the cheapest in the world. The price is the same for both mobile and table net, and between the 2 nets, around a few centavos for a call, even a long one.

Wrong. It costs even more than almost anywhere else. It's just that the actual costs are taken out of the hides of the people without them even having a choice, even the ones who aren't allowed phones. It's for the good of the whole. It's called "egalitarianism".

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A phone call to other countries is one of the most expensive because of the US blockade, Cuba must use satellite, which cost a lot of money.

Because of the US blockade, their only decent connection to internet was by satellite, which cost a lot of money. At that time, only administrations and ordinary peoples that must have internet for their work was having internet.

Oh, you're not able to leech off us? How unjust! You're located right where we are. Build your own fucking undersea cables like we did. Why should we pay for your communications? The Internet is not some free service from the magic Internet fairy. It was built with U.S. tax dollars and the investments of evil U.S. capitalists. So by what right do you whine like a baby who can't quite reach the tit that we're "depriving" you? Why should we support your American-hating asses? So you can spread lies about us more effectively? If Communism is so great, why do you need to leech off us? How can you even bear to talk about this? The hypocrisy must be obvious even to you.

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The US said this was because Cuba is a dictatorship, when in fact the Cuban State was not willing to subvention internet by satellite for its citizens like it already subvention the phone calls for the internal traffic.

Of course not: the ruling class doesn't want the ignorant proletariat slaves to know how badly off they are as the result of Cuba's communism and how well off most of the rest of the world is. They'd rise up and overthrow them. It's the same reason the USSR had its "Iron Curtain" until it started to collapse and become capitalist. It's the same reason China was a closed society until it decided it had better become capitalist to feed its people and raise its standard of living or they would revolt.

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Now, Cuba have a cable between Venezuela and the Island, and they just begin to develop the infrastructure.

Yes, you have plans to lay a cable to Venezuela. It remains to be seen whether you and Venezuela can pull it off. I suppose if the project has sponsorship by the Chinese or somebody it might happen.

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The US have the NSA, but the US still say the dictatorship is not in the US but in Cuba :lol: It is more cops by citizen in the US today than in the USSR of Stalin, but for the "free" world, the US is a free country. It remain me a few decade ago when the socialists was saying the USSR is a free country :lol: :lol: :lol: We all now the end of that kind of free world.

You are right that the U.S. is sliding rapidly toward the left and becoming more like Cuba, North Korea, and the USSR. I wish it were not true, but it is true. We do not, however, have anywhere near the number of "cops" the former Soviet Union had. Yet. We might someday, if current trends continue and the leftists remain in charge.

The reason you are aware of our NSA and what it has been doing, and the reason it is made to sound so bad, is because the majority of Americans are fighting back against this. It is more authoritarian than we want our country to be. Meanwhile, the general public of Cuba don't even know that an alternative exists.

Dominique_71 wrote:
Also, it is a big difference between Lenin's Russian, Slatine's USSR, and Castro's Cuba. Lenin's Russia was the first Jewish controlled State (between 80 to 100 % of all the power positions in the administration, the State, the party, the army, the police and the secret police was in hands of Jewish peoples) - that is before the Jewish controlled Palestine, but at the same time the first kibbutzim. Staline's USSR was also Jewish controlled. In Cuba, one of the first achievement of the revolution was to get ride of the Jewish mafia. They returned them to the sender :lol:

This incredible exaggeration was in your history book at school, I suppose. Did it mention that they ate babies, too? I hope your history books didn't actually call him "Slatine". :lol:
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