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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cuba's one saving grace is the excellent healthcare system that could teach the US' system a few things.
That's pure propaganda. Their healthcare system is a total nightmare.

Viddie well brother, viddie well
lots of places say otherwise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba

I like the way that whether I live or die isn't controlled by big business
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using UN stats given to the UN by Castro's government. Did you even watch the video?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
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Cuba's one saving grace is the excellent healthcare system that could teach the US' system a few things.


That's pure propaganda. Their healthcare system is a total nightmare.

Viddie well brother, viddie well

You don't think cokehabit is actually going to watch that, do you? That's like... five whole minutes of sustained cognitive dissonance!

One would actually have an open mind to to do that.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You pretend to be from Switzerland, but we all know you're from Cuba, and we've known it all along, because you're always talking about how great things are in Cuba. Why don't you just go ahead and admit it. You'll find the honesty refreshing.


Ohh...I like conspiracy theoru. Well, some conclutions might give you a window of oportunity, but that is...like mcgrufff. I think you are him.

I just wanted to see if he'd admit to it. He didn't, but as a reward we found out that he's had four wives. :lol:

1+1+1=4 for BoneKracker

As he count, I am not surprised his mind is biased. :lol:

The main problem with capitalists is they are fully unable to face the major fact of today: this is the US and a few other countries that make an insane and criminal war effort all around the world and against the rest of the world. The last empire... is the worst criminal of all times :lol:
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As he count, I am not surprised his mind is biased.


Ah yes, you're the open minded one :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a piece of work. :lol:
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What a piece of work. :lol:


As I said earlier, a 20 year old coed in a che t-shit sitting at an occupy rally.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I am biased, but my bias is based on scientific facts.

The capitalists are saying we can exploit the Hearth to make profit and the sacred spirit of capitalism will fulfill the needs of all peoples.

The communists are saying we can exploit the Hearth to fulfill the needs of all peoples and the sacred spirit of Marxism will fulfill the needs of the Hearth.

I don't believe the sacred spirit is proper to an ideology but in science. The Hearth is our only source of life. She give us the conditions to live, food, water, clothes, raw materials. And no technology will change that. That imply we must respect the Hearth and that the fulfillment of our needs must be subordinated to the fulfillment of the needs of the Hearth.

As they said in the movie, We must stop to work against Nature and work with Nature.

If we can do that, understand and respect the Hearth, we must be able to understand and respect each other as well, and to construct a new world which will be for all of us and for the other species as well, and which will be the golden age of humanity and all species. If we cannot do that, we will just fail to survive as a specie to the capitalist empire. So one way or the other, the capitalist empire will be the last.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dominique_71 wrote:
We must stop to work against Nature and work with Nature

:lol: :lol:

Only I teh Scyents! I mean Religio-Scyents!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Using UN stats given to the UN by Castro's government. Did you even watch the video?
Yes I did but there are more stats than the UN's
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
Muso wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
Cuba's one saving grace is the excellent healthcare system that could teach the US' system a few things.


That's pure propaganda. Their healthcare system is a total nightmare.

Viddie well brother, viddie well

You don't think cokehabit is actually going to watch that, do you? That's like... five whole minutes of sustained cognitive dissonance!

One would actually have an open mind to to do that.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
Dominique_71 wrote:
We must stop to work against Nature and work with Nature

:lol: :lol:

Only I teh Scyents! I mean Religio-Scyents!


I am not surprised your only scientific argumentation is jokes. As the Indians said:

"A human being that doesn't respect its environment is unable to respect her fellow."

And they added:

"You will understand you cannot eat money only when it will be nothing left."

The global pollution is just increasing. We are now at a point where both the animal and vegetable species are disappearing at an unprecedented rate. And what do the capitalists against that: they transform the worst of the most toxic and long lasting of their waste, Depleted Uranium, into bombs and cast them in the Environment. :twisted: Sad but true!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have lots of other arguments, but I'm not going to waste them on you. You're so far out in left field you've left the ballpark and are never coming back. Also, I don't believe you are Swiss. I think that's a lie. I still believe you are Cuban. I don't think any normal, fully functional Swiss person could be as deeply and irrevocably brainwashed as you seem to be (unless maybe you're a Cuban or North Korean refugee who just can't let go or something). The historical reality you are living in could be a case study in itself.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I Can Tell You That We Need Them
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cubist maybe...
Cor! That is freaky 8)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I am not the only one :D
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And I am not the only one :D
Imagine there's no God. No heaven and hell. :P
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Dominique_71, are you going to be celebrating the 65th anniversary of the DPRK with your fellow comrades in Switzerland?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Imagine there's no God. No heaven and hell. :P
No need to imagine, only that everyone was enlightened.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, Cuba is not alone: U.N. urges end to U.S. Cuba embargo for 21st year

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(Reuters) - Repeating an annual ritual, the U.N. General Assembly called on Tuesday for the United States to lift its trade embargo against Cuba, whose foreign minister said the blockade against the communist-run island was tantamount to "genocide."

For the 21st year, the assembly's vote was overwhelming, with 188 nations - including most of Washington's closest allies - supporting the embargo resolution, a result virtually unchanged from last year.

Israel, heavily dependent on U.S. backing in the Middle East, and the tiny Pacific state of Palau were the only two countries that supported the United States in opposing the non-binding resolution in the 193-nation assembly. The Pacific states of the Marshall Islands and Micronesia abstained.

President Barack Obama further loosened curbs last year on U.S. travel and remittances to Cuba. He had said he was ready to change Cuba policy but was still waiting for signals from Havana, such as the release of political prisoners and guarantees of basic human rights.

But Obama has not lifted the five-decade-old trade embargo, and the imprisonment of a U.S. contractor in Cuba has halted the thaw in Cuban-U.S. relations.

Havana's Foreign Minister Bruno Rodriguez told the assembly that Cuba had high hopes for Obama when he was first elected in 2008 and welcomed his calls for change. But he said the result had been disappointing.

"The reality is that the last four years have been characterized by the persistent tightening of ... the embargo," he said.

'EXTERNAL SCAPEGOAT'

Rodriguez said the "extraterritoriality" of the blockade measures - the fact that Washington pressures other countries to adhere to the U.S. embargo - violates international law. He added that the blockade is not in U.S. interests and harms its credibility.

"It leads the U.S. to adopt costly double standards," he said, adding that the embargo has failed to achieve its objectives of pressuring the government to introduce economic and political freedoms and comply with international human rights standards.

"There is no legitimate or moral reason to maintain this embargo that is anchored in the Cold War," he said.

He said it qualified as a "act of genocide" against Cuba and was a "massive, flagrant and systematic violation of the human rights of an entire people."

U.S. envoy Ronald Godard rejected the resolution's call for ending the blockade and Cuba's allegation that the United States was to blame for Cuban financial difficulties. He added that the government in Havana was putting the brakes on Cuba's further development, not the United States.

"It is the Cuban government that continues to deprive them of that aspiration," he said, adding that Cuba was seeking an "external scapegoat for the island's economic problems."

Godard said Washington was not punishing the Cuban people. He said $2 billion in remittances were sent from the United States to Cuba last year, while Washington had authorized over $1.2 billion in humanitarian assistance.

He repeated Washington's calls for Cuba to "immediately release Mr. (Alan) Gross," a U.S. contractor serving a 15-year sentence in Cuba for setting up Internet networks, work that a judge said was a crime against the Cuban state.

Gross' imprisonment halted efforts by Obama to improve long-hostile relations between the United States and Cuba.

Rodriguez received a resounding ovation after his speech. No one applauded Godard as the assembly proceeded to the vote.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the details, see the UN itself: ‘Archaic, Punitive’ Embargo Must be Consigned to History Books, Say Speakers, as General Assembly, for Twenty-First Year, Demands End to Cuba Blockade

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see that the USA still has the support of Palau. (Don't get me started on Israel.)
I buy my rum from Cuba. LOL USA.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So another "strongly worded letter" from the U.N.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks more like a LOL USA from the UN assembly.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh look, a dead donkey. Lets beat it some more.
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