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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:47 pm    Post subject: could not start kdeinit [solved] Reply with quote

just like other people on the forum, i get errors while trying to run KDE

when i type "startx", kde seems to load but i then get a message box telling me "could not start kdeinit. check configuration"

i've tried all the solutions i found on this forum but none of them seems to work :(

with make menuconfig i have entered the (right?) values of the forum, but it just won't work

Sources:
thread 1
thread 2
thread 3
thread 4
thread 5

So you can see that i have tried all i can 8O

Also my NIC doesn't function: during install it worked and i went online to get sources, but after reboot my NIC "failed to load" and i can't come online anymore.
Though my kernel is compiled with the right modules (8139cp for a Realtek NIC)

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My config files:
http://users.skynet.be/nijs.vanheusden/_rommel/gentoo/NET
http://users.skynet.be/nijs.vanheusden/_rommel/gentoo/RC
http://users.skynet.be/nijs.vanheusden/_rommel/gentoo/RC.CONF
http://users.skynet.be/nijs.vanheusden/_rommel/gentoo/XF86CONF

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i hope somebody can help me...
thx!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobody?

the log file of my current configuration:
XF86Conf.0.log

i have made my configuration for the x'ed time with xf86config and this was the result:
XF86Conf2

and this was the error log of that configuration:
XF86Conf.0.log2


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this:

emerge fam-oss
emerge libart-lgpl
env-update && source /etc/profile

Lemme know if it works out

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm sorry, but i think the problem with my NIC has to be solved first...

the error here was that Gentoo detected it during install, but after installation, t failed to load on startup

see config files above for more information
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

make sure you module is loaded in

/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.x

or you could try rebuilding your kernel with the driver built in instead of the module.

does the system fail to see the NIC or is it not configured right?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i checked my configuration and i've already set a * by the two chips of my network card ("Ethernet(10 or 100Mbit)" -> "RealTek RTL-8139 C+ PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter support" and "RealTek RTL-8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter support")

here's my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.5 file

i've set the two options in it (8139 and 8139+ [i'm not sure if they're right, but i seem to remember something about it during install] ) but after reboot Gentoo still "failes to load" when "bringing op eth0"

do i have to do something special or so [n00bish question]?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok if you set the * by the NIC in your kernel when you first configured it then it should be built into the kernel. You shouldn't need to load any modules at startup.

If it is built into your kernel as you say try typing: "dhcpd eth0" at the bash prompt and then try "ping www.google.com" and hit control-c after a few seconds...

see iff that lets you connect to the internet.

The above assumes you are using dhcp.. If your not your gonna have to mod a configuration file.. Let me know what you need and I can try to help ya.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see you mentioning that you are using masqurade or a router so why is your /etc/conf.d/net file set for dhcp on eth0 and you give it a static ip for a lan. Looks like you have a conflict.

Code:
iface_eth0="192.168.0.2 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0"
#iface_eth1="207.170.82.202 broadcast 207.0.255.255 netmask 255.255.0.0"

# For DHCP set iface_eth? to "dhcp"
# For passing options to dhcpcd use dhcpcd_eth?
#
iface_eth0="dhcp"
#dhcpcd_eth0="..."


if that is the case and eth0 is connected to the ISP then try:

Code:
#iface_eth0="192.168.0.2 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0"
#iface_eth1="207.170.82.202 broadcast 207.0.255.255 netmask 255.255.0.0"

# For DHCP set iface_eth? to "dhcp"
# For passing options to dhcpcd use dhcpcd_eth?
#
iface_eth0="dhcp"
#dhcpcd_eth0="..."

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right: it is contradict;

i'm on a network with a router so my settings are, just like in Windows, dhcp.

I've updated my /etc/conf.d/net file but the error still exists.

Precise description:
Bringing up interface eth0...
Failed to bring eth0 up [!!]
ERROR: Problem starting needed services.
"netmount" was not started.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add netmount to your default initscript:

rc-update add netmount default
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but isn't because my NIC is not found, netmount is unable to start?

anyway, i tried rc-update add netmount default and it said it was already my default, so skipping...


NB: notice the red line i've added in my previous post, i had forgotten that...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I don't have the 2.5 kernel to see if the name was changed. But in the
2.4 kernel and in the 2.6 kernel.
The two 8139 drivers are called: 8139cp and 8139too

Code:

In your /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.5 file

# For example:
# 3c59x
8139cp
8139+


Plus, if as suggested you have it compiled in your kernel (*) instead of as a module (M) then you will not have to have the modules listed in modules.autoload.d... because there is no module to load, it is in the kernel.

I would suggest you recompile your kernel (at least to test) with them as modules and not in the kernel (some drivers work better as modules). Then change the above "8139+" to "8139too" (without the quotes :) ).
Unless for some odd reason they renamed it for 2.5 kernel only.

Then when and if you have it working. Use the command "lsmod" as root to see which one you are really using for your NIC.

Then finally, if everything is working and you really want it in the kernel. Recompile the NIC driver you are using in the kernel, but you will get an error that it didn't load if you leave the module name in the place you have it now, because again, there is no module to load.

Does this make sense? Then like you said, you can work on why kde doesn't start.

*Also note: Kernel 2.5 is a testing (unstable, not ready for prime time) kernel. Unless you are wanting to play with something new, that may not be correct and stable, you should use Even numbered kernels. I would go back to 2.4 or try 2.6. :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay, after recompilation with the the two modules with an "M" it still aint working

i'm going to find out how to change my kernel to 2.4 or 2.6 and try it 8O

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, after recompling my kernel with the right card(s) as module (M) i've found this on another topic:
Code:
insmod 8139too
modprobe 8139too

and yes, my NIC works!
Never felt pinging Google so good!

But still, there's the initial problem: kdeinit failes to load

And i was able to fix that too with the code xPAGANx gave me:
xPAGANx wrote:

emerge fam-oss
emerge libart-lgpl
env-update && source /etc/profile

and with a little adjustment it will be:
Code:
emerge libart_lgpl

(mention the underscore)

But i still have to do, every time after reboot,
Code:
insmod 8139too
modprobe 8139too

isn't it possible to make this autoload?

i've set this in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.5 and kernel-2.4:
8139too

but doesn't seem to work
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I am pleased to hear you have come as far as you have..

you said you compiled kernel 2.6 and it worked...

you also said you put the modules in /etc/modules.auto.d/kernel-2.5,2.4

what about the 2.6? or isnt there one? or was this a typo?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's is no 2.6 kernel

i didn't actually know how to manage that :oops:

i've now a working 2.5 (?) and it looks fine

the networkmodules (and also my soundcard) are now loaded even after reboot so thats also fine

but i've also compiled with NTFS and MSDOS etc support, but that still aint working (have followed the FAQ thow...)
after recompling with those options, i can't even mount my windows floppy's because gentoo says that's also not supported :?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you add the filesystems as modules or did you build them into the kernel?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xPAGANx wrote:
did you add the filesystems as modules or did you build them into the kernel?


i build them in
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobody any idea?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they key was recompiling with NTFS en vFAT support as module, not build into the kernel

my fstabfile:
Code:
/dev/hda7               /boot           ext3            noauto,noatime          1 1
/dev/hda10              /               reiserfs        noatime                 0 0
/dev/hda8               none            swap            sw                      0 0
/dev/hda9               home            reiserfs        noatime                 0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0      /mnt/cdrom      iso9660         noauto,ro               0 0
#WINDOWS MOUNTS
/dev/hda1               /mnt/C          ntfs            defaults,gid=0,umask=727                0 0
/dev/hda2               /mnt/D          ntfs            defaults,gid=0,umask=727                0 0
/dev/hda5               /mnt/werk               ntfs            defaults,gid=0,umask=727                0 0
/dev/hda6               /mnt/software           ntfs            defaults,gid=0,umask=727                0 0
#/dev/hdb4              /mnt/G          vfat            defaults,gid=0,umask=707                0 0
/dev/hdb5               /mnt/linuxShare         vfat            defaults,gid=0,umask=707                0 0


my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4 file:
Code:
8139too
emu10k1
ntfs
vfat


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it was the NTFS filesystem. I have ext3, dos fat, msdos, vfat all compiled in the kernel. I don't have NTFS though.
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