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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aCOSwt wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
France has Algerians, Moroccans and the French...Britain has eastern Europeans and pikeys.

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cokehabit eun bouon gâs, ma i s'néyerait dauns as roupie!

Since, thanks to Guillaume, the English ran away from Bretagne to eastern Europe, do you mean that they are coming back ? 8O

APRESMIEZ, FARRAINS ! VULE BOUSE ! ESTRACE DE FUMELLES ! ORT LAGUE !

DEX AÏE!


I am not sure what you are trying to communicate. But it would help a lot if you'd use something resembling a human language.

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Es giebt Vorgänge so zarter Art, dass man gut thut, sie durch eine Grobheit zu verschütten und unkenntlich zu machen! :P
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na bitte, es geht doch!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's ok, they surrender and just sit eating cheese if you keep shouting at them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nothing to do with the argument


"Immigrant scum are lazy dole-sucking scroungers who take all the jobs."

That's an argument?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It does put a drain on the economy. Since the year 2000, the UK's net annual migration rate has climbed steadily from 1% to 3%, while the public debt has simultaneously climbed steadily from 39% of GDP to 86% of GDP.


No wonder you don't like science. Rational thought processes are alien to you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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....


You keep on about immigration, specifically :

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lazy dole-sucking scroungers


I didn't state that - you did.

I am saying that if you have an issue with unemployment - source
recruits for any new positions from home. It's madness to import more people in this
case.

It's not hard to understand
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I didn't state that - you did.


My apologies. So you agree that immigrants are not dole-sucking scroungers?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.. immigrants are not dole-sucking scroungers?


You're doing it again.

Also you haven't acknowledged the second part of my post.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as a few people make plenty of profit through exploitation and that outbalances the costs of unemployment for the rest, capitalism works just fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As long as a few people make plenty of profit through exploitation and that outbalances the costs of unemployment for the rest, capitalism works just fine.


We have minimum wage and a whole host of employment legislation, this applies to legal immigrants.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You're doing it again.


Yeah. Do you agree that immigrants are not dole-sucking scroungers?

One minute you're complaining that you didn't say they were and now you've gone all coy when I ask you a perfectly reasonable question.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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not dole-sucking scroungers


I can has second part of post addressed ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

De'tik'ur'jaabs is a facile argument against immigration. Immigration actually benefits the economy.

Now you show me yours.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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De'tik'ur'jaabs is a facile argument against immigration. Immigration actually benefits the economy.

Now you show me yours.


You still haven't answered my question, rather you've answered something that you've concocted.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your question?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am saying that if you have an issue with unemployment - source
recruits for any new positions from home. It's madness to import more people in this
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like listening to a lobotomised version of Jeremy Paxman.

"But, did you threaten to overrule him?" to "Did you say scum duh immigrants duh..."

I think Paxman's job is safe.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am saying that if you have an issue with unemployment - source
recruits for any new positions from home. It's madness to import more people in this
case.


That's not a question. Still, I've already told you what I think. It's a facile argument. It's not madness it makes good economic sense.

Do you agree that immigrants are not dole-sucking scroungers?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not madness it makes good economic sense.


So, it's OK to ignore the sea of home grown unemployment and import more workforce. Potentially,
swelling the number of unemployed in the medium to long term (redundancy can strike at any time).

Additionally, it's OK to import workforce and create social tensions around this - when here's no need
to import said workforce.

mcgruff wrote:
not dole-sucking scroungers?


You're at it again, you little tinker you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a fair question. Do you agree that immigrants are not dole-sucking scroungers?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's a fair question. Do you agree that immigrants are not dole-sucking scroungers?


As is my proposition (again which you've ignored) - you're attempting to derail the argument. Riddle me this :

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So, it's OK to ignore the sea of home grown unemployment and import more workforce. Potentially,
swelling the number of unemployed in the medium to long term (redundancy can strike at any time).

Additionally, it's OK to import workforce and create social tensions around this - when here's no need
to import said workforce.


In return, I'll throw you a biscuit (oaty with golden syrup) :

Clarify, illegal or legal immigrants ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As is my proposition (again which you've ignored)


I answered your question; I didn't ignore anything. Now you answer mine. Do you think immigrants are dole-sucking scroungers? If you have different views for legal/illegal you can explain that. Not my problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As is my proposition (again which you've ignored)


I answered your question; I didn't ignore anything. Now you answer mine. Do you think immigrants are dole-sucking scroungers? If you have different views for legal/illegal you can explain that. Not my problem.


Let's recap then, you're OK with importing workforce, even when there's a standing issue
with unemployment at home and all the implications that come with that.


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Do you think immigrants are dole-sucking scroungers?


I asked you to clarify, but you ignored that. The reason is probably that your question can't be answered, without resorting
to some sweeping generalisation. If somebody wants to work, actively contribute to their new society - not milk the system,
then by definition they are not dole-sucking scroungers (to use your parlance).

If they do, then they are. It is irrelevant as to whether they are immigrants or not in this case.

The argument that I initially addressed are the policies that brings the immigrants here in the first place, needs must
reduce the amount of home grown DSS (that's short for dole-sucking scroungers)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll throw you a biscuit (oaty with golden syrup)

8O Golden Syrup 8O
Good Gracious!
Not Lyle's Golden Syrup !
Don't !
Don't waste Lyle's Golden Syrup!
Don't tell me that such crime is now permitted in England!

Probably the most delicious thing I would acknowledge brought to my culture by the English!
Ranking immediately after the humour and Sir Colin Davis.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't waste Lyle's Golden Syrup!


The very same - flapjacks v.nice.
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