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big dave
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| i'm actually surprised... why pick such a low level target? a viewing stand at a marathon? my money is on a crazy person. |
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Naib
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see, tea bagging means something different overhere...
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| My first reaction was "Al Qaeda!" but I took that back after I noticed the scale. Attacks from them usually kill a lot more, do they not? However, only half of the known bombs were detonated. Cell service was cut after the blast preventing further blasts. |
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wswartzendruber
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| big dave wrote: | | i'm actually surprised... why pick such a low level target? a viewing stand at a marathon? my money is on a crazy person. |
I don't think crazy people generally orchestrate four different bombs. This was thought-out. |
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Prenj
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Muso wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | Early on, it was not obviously related to RoP. |
It was to me. Multiple explosions targeting random civilians. That's RoP 101.
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pjp
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| big dave wrote: | | i'm actually surprised... why pick such a low level target? a viewing stand at a marathon? my money is on a crazy person. |
Terrorism doesn't have to have a huge immediate impact. Due to this incident, how much money will we burn? How much liberty will be taken?
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sikpuppy
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| Naib wrote: | | see, tea bagging means something different overhere... |
Balls in their court maybe. I can imagine some of those uptight fuckers enjoying the feel of testicles on their god bothering domes. |
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Muso
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:13 am Post subject: |
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So my [RoP] tag was accurate.
Shock, fucking, horror.
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Naib
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Muso wrote: | So my [RoP] tag was accurate.
Shock, fucking, horror. |
citation? so far nothing is actually certain except your preconceptions WHICH might be correct are not provable
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juniper
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| Old School wrote: | | Like when Gabby Giffords was shot, the Lame Stream press immediately started speculating if it was a Tea Party member or a *gasp* Rush Limbaugh listener. |
Hence waiting for evidence is a good idea, no? |
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juniper
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| big dave wrote: | | i'm actually surprised... why pick such a low level target? a viewing stand at a marathon? my money is on a crazy person. |
Makes some sense. You want to spread terror? Hitting mundane targets might do a good job. People are already on edge when they get on planes, why not keep them scared when they are in their city? |
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Muso
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| juniper wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | Like when Gabby Giffords was shot, the Lame Stream press immediately started speculating if it was a Tea Party member or a *gasp* Rush Limbaugh listener. |
Hence waiting for evidence is a good idea, no? |
Which they based upon a total lie. American libertarian conservatives are not the frothing at the mouth lunatics that do that shit. Gifford's assailant was a lefty. Obama's guru, Bill Ayers, is a lefty.
And I'm still laughing that my original tag of [RoP] is proving accurate.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| Muso wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | Like when Gabby Giffords was shot, the Lame Stream press immediately started speculating if it was a Tea Party member or a *gasp* Rush Limbaugh listener. |
Hence waiting for evidence is a good idea, no? |
Which they based upon a total lie. American libertarian conservatives are not the frothing at the mouth lunatics that do that shit. Gifford's assailant was a lefty. Obama's guru, Bill Ayers, is a lefty.
And I'm still laughing that my original tag of [RoP] is proving accurate. |
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Naib
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| juniper wrote: | | Muso wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | Like when Gabby Giffords was shot, the Lame Stream press immediately started speculating if it was a Tea Party member or a *gasp* Rush Limbaugh listener. |
Hence waiting for evidence is a good idea, no? |
Which they based upon a total lie. American libertarian conservatives are not the frothing at the mouth lunatics that do that shit. Gifford's assailant was a lefty. Obama's guru, Bill Ayers, is a lefty.
And I'm still laughing that my original tag of [RoP] is proving accurate. |
yeah. hilarious |
yes terrorist attacks and deaths of innocences is always a laughing point. All that is known is it is race related
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| juniper wrote: | | Muso wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | Like when Gabby Giffords was shot, the Lame Stream press immediately started speculating if it was a Tea Party member or a *gasp* Rush Limbaugh listener. |
Hence waiting for evidence is a good idea, no? |
Which they based upon a total lie. American libertarian conservatives are not the frothing at the mouth lunatics that do that shit. Gifford's assailant was a lefty. Obama's guru, Bill Ayers, is a lefty.
And I'm still laughing that my original tag of [RoP] is proving accurate. |
yeah. hilarious |
Your denial of the reality of the problem is what's laughable. "Diversity" and "Political Correctness" lead to blindness and death... and even when confronted with the slaughter of innocents, you still ignore the problem.
Hint : Islam is a totally fuct ideology.
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| Muso wrote: | | Hint : Islam is a totally fuct ideology. |
Among other fuct ideologies, consumerism for example. Communism. Fascism. Zionism. Nationalism. Racism. Capitalism. In fact, every ideology. That is exactly the problem. People have this belief that by inventing a new way of interpreting the universe, they can somehow overcome it's mechanism. Like making GMO food, or using antibiotics for everything.
Antibiotic-resistent bacteria would disagree. |
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| Muso wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | Muso wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | Like when Gabby Giffords was shot, the Lame Stream press immediately started speculating if it was a Tea Party member or a *gasp* Rush Limbaugh listener. |
Hence waiting for evidence is a good idea, no? |
Which they based upon a total lie. American libertarian conservatives are not the frothing at the mouth lunatics that do that shit. Gifford's assailant was a lefty. Obama's guru, Bill Ayers, is a lefty.
And I'm still laughing that my original tag of [RoP] is proving accurate. |
yeah. hilarious |
Your denial of the reality of the problem is what's laughable. "Diversity" and "Political Correctness" lead to blindness and death... and even when confronted with the slaughter of innocents, you still ignore the problem.
Hint : Islam is a totally fuct ideology. |
And still you are insisting that you are correct without proof (note while in active investigation they are not going to let alot of info out)
You are speculating that [RoP] is accurate but you have nothing to back that statement. It probably is but you cannot push personal opinion as fact. The Generic argument and composition/division argument is flawed, however much experience you can pull on to justify it, it isn't fact-base or provable.
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| Naib wrote: | And still you are insisting that you are correct.
You are speculating that [RoP] is accurate but you have nothing to back that statement. It probably is but you cannot push personal opinion as fact. The Generic argument and composition/division argument is flawed, however much experience you can pull on to justify it, it isn't fact-base or provable. |
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| Quote: | | i'm actually surprised... why pick such a low level target? a viewing stand at a marathon? my money is on a crazy person. |
maybe because in this business the "real weapon" is the media that spreads the information. So nearly every target fits, and moreover the marathon is focused by a lot of people...
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| LoTeK wrote: | | Quote: | | i'm actually surprised... why pick such a low level target? a viewing stand at a marathon? my money is on a crazy person. |
maybe because in this business the "real weapon" is the media that spreads the information. So nearly every target fits, and moreover the marathon is focused by a lot of people... |
not only that but planning for a low-level target would be alot simpler. One man could do it
One man working alone is all but impossible to catch since there is no communications trail for intelligence services or investigators to work with or be alerted to
Look at the unabomber
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| juniper wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | Like when Gabby Giffords was shot, the Lame Stream press immediately started speculating if it was a Tea Party member or a *gasp* Rush Limbaugh listener. |
Hence waiting for evidence is a good idea, no? |
Don't tell me.
Write a letter to a MSNBC producer.
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juniper
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Your denial of the reality of the problem is what's laughable. "Diversity" and "Political Correctness" lead to blindness and death... and even when confronted with the slaughter of innocents, you still ignore the problem.
Hint : Islam is a totally fuct ideology. |
The current reality is that they don't know. So what am I denying precisely? oh, right. your unfounded conclusions.
I never knew that it was political correctness to wait for evidence before accusing people. Even if you a right, it isn't good to jump to conclusions. This happened with the Norway incident as well. |
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| Old School wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | Like when Gabby Giffords was shot, the Lame Stream press immediately started speculating if it was a Tea Party member or a *gasp* Rush Limbaugh listener. |
Hence waiting for evidence is a good idea, no? |
Don't tell me.
Write a letter to a MSNBC producer. |
don't forget Muso. |
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All ideas about who did this are speculation at this point. Nevertheless, it's not unreasonable to speculate, provided it's couched as that and you don't do something stupid like violate people's rights based on it.
The last attempt at something like this in the U.S. was a home-grown Islamic terrorist. However, the last (somewhat) successful attempt at something like this was a home-grown terrorist with an extremist social conservative ideology. Most of his targets corresponded to that ideology (abortionists, gays, etc.). My money is still on homegrown Jihadist terrorists. (I further speculate, wildly, that it was a small number of either Northeast region college students (perhaps Boston), or jobless derka-derka techno-yuppies from the same area.)
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