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cwc Veteran
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 1281 Location: Tri-Cities, WA USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:41 pm Post subject: motherboards that work well with gentoo ? |
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My last post was in reference to my ASUS A8V-VM Motherboard and it only seeing 3 gigs of RAM.
Some said I should drive over it. Well, I'd like to keep it and get a new Motherboard preferably AMD because of cost.
I'd also like to stick with Nvidia unless I could be convinced ATI would be an advantage.
I'm a Java, PHP, and Arduino programmer.
I also want to run Blender.
The ASUS A8V-VM worked well with Gentoo.
What Motherboards are ya all using and what could you recommend. <$200 _________________ Without diversity there can be no evolution:) |
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Clad in Sky l33t
Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 887 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Should probably moved to kernel and hardware for better results.
5 years ago I built my computer with a Gigabyte board and haven't had any problems so far. I'm too lazy to search for the specifications since the board is so old. At the same time I also built one computer with an Asrock board, and a friend has one box with the same board and both worked and still do without problems.
I'd stick to NVidia for the time being because Nvidia works well here. _________________ Kali Ma
Now it's autumn of the aeons
Dance with your sword
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energyman76b Advocate
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2048 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Gigabyte _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a pair of MSI boards and was disappointed. One had a faulty memory channel, but it was a long time before I got around to troubleshooting the problem.
I replaced it and another older system with identical Gigabyte boards (AMD). I've been happy.
Unless I had a reason to do otherwise, I'd probably go with Gigabyte again. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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John R. Graham Administrator
Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 10589 Location: Somewhere over Atlanta, Georgia
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Clad in Sky wrote: | Should probably moved to kernel and hardware for better results. | Agreed. Moved as suggested.
- John _________________ I can confirm that I have received between 0 and 499 National Security Letters. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54237 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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cwc,
That sounds very 32 bitish. Is it a BIOS problem?
Regardless of what the BIOS might report, what does a 64 bit liveCD have to say about RAM ? _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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John R. Graham Administrator
Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 10589 Location: Somewhere over Atlanta, Georgia
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have had really good luck with Supermicro, but they're pricey. I love their dual Xeon server boards, from which I build workstation-class machines.
However, I'm not sure the premise is especially valid these days. Which one of you have had bad luck getting Gentoo running on any mainstream motherboard? Even pjp's issues are ones of quality, not of compatibility.
- John _________________ I can confirm that I have received between 0 and 499 National Security Letters. |
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cwc Veteran
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 1281 Location: Tri-Cities, WA USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:47 am Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | cwc,
That sounds very 32 bitish. Is it a BIOS problem?
Regardless of what the BIOS might report, what does a 64 bit liveCD have to say about RAM ? |
Hmmm. . . Good idea!
I'll give that a try after Chromium installs A few hours from now.
Rescue CD 64 bit results
root@sysresccd /root % free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 3237 407 2829 0 34 197
-/+ buffers/cache: 175 3061
Swap: 0 0 0
root@sysresccd /root % top
top - 07:05:45 up 44 min, 0 users, load average: 0.06, 0.04, 0.05
Tasks: 86 total, 1 running, 85 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu(s): 0.3%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 3314812k total, 416456k used, 2898356k free, 35548k buffers
Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 201556k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1904 root 20 0 2460 1044 804 R 0.7 0.0 0:03.54 top
1826 root 19 -1 40436 14m 5024 S 0.3 0.4 0:10.06 X
1875 root 20 0 26920 10m 7540 S 0.3 0.3 0:04.73 terminal
1899 root 20 0 142m 39m 18m S 0.3 1.2 0:07.33 midori
1 root 20 0 1736 592 520 S 0.0 0.0 0:02.03 init
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 ksoftirqd/0
4 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.11 kworker/0:0
5 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u:0
6 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0
7 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0
8 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuset
9 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
10 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 netns
11 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sync_supers
12 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 bdi-default
13 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kintegrityd _________________ Without diversity there can be no evolution:) |
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AaronPPC Guru
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 522 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I just built a new rig on an Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0 motherboard. I believe it will meet all of your criteria. It is an AMD AM3+ board with an nVidia 990 chipset and is $140 at Newegg. It works perfectly under Linux. Suspend and hibernate even works! _________________ --Aaron |
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Ant P. Watchman
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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My 2¢, hardware I can recall using recently:
Gigabyte (AM2/3) - works well enough, got a free CPU core from a BIOS update, can't complain
Asus (various ICH-based) - works OK now, had various graphics/wifi problems when I first bought them.
Jetway (ICH) - avoid like plague. Buggy BIOS, no manufacturer-provided updates for it either. Hardware sensors were useless because of broken ACPI. |
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cwc Veteran
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 1281 Location: Tri-Cities, WA USA
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Anon-E-moose Watchman
Joined: 23 May 2008 Posts: 6098 Location: Dallas area
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Most boards will run linux (some with various degrees of success).
But to be sure, read the specs on the board and check gentoo search for problems with onboard stuff
especially the video (if onboard), usb controllers, full iommu support (if doing virtualization) and ethernet.
I own an older MSI board that still runs fine except it doesn't support iommu completely,
so I've upgraded to an Asus m5a99fx. I initially upgraded to an asrock but it shorted out
for some strange reason and they had no more to swap out, so I went with the Asus.
Gigabyte is swapout compatible with many MSI and Asus boards as they seem to use the same reference designs, IMO.
Good luck _________________ PRIME x570-pro, 3700x, 6.1 zen kernel
gcc 13, profile 17.0 (custom bare multilib), openrc, wayland |
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tomtom69 Apprentice
Joined: 09 Nov 2010 Posts: 245 Location: Bavaria
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I can also recommend asrock.
Old board was a K7S41GX (~9 years old, 2 systems still running), and currently I am running a N68C-S-UCC (~3 years old) on 3 systems without any problems. Both with AMD. |
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krinn Watchman
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 7470
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: motherboards that work well with gentoo ? |
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cwc wrote: | My last post was in reference to my ASUS A8V-VM Motherboard and it only seeing 3 gigs of RAM. |
Well, if you have 3g install, what's wrong ?
But if you have more than 3g ram, then this looks a bit strange
Quote: | The ASUS A8V-VM worked well with Gentoo. |
You should define what a "motherboards that work well with gentoo ?" is for you |
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Anon-E-moose Watchman
Joined: 23 May 2008 Posts: 6098 Location: Dallas area
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:40 am Post subject: Re: motherboards that work well with gentoo ? |
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cwc wrote: | My last post was in reference to my ASUS A8V-VM Motherboard and it only seeing 3 gigs of RAM. |
The max that motherboard holds is 4 gig, which is 4 1 gig sticks.
Anything larger than a 1 gig stick likely won't be recognized (by system/bios).
And what do you mean by "not recognized"?
Are you referring to the operating system, or the board itself?
X86 mode will only see ~3.7 gig. _________________ PRIME x570-pro, 3700x, 6.1 zen kernel
gcc 13, profile 17.0 (custom bare multilib), openrc, wayland |
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krinn Watchman
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Also most VM boards include onchip video, and because of that, an amount of system memory is reserved (read eaten) for the video. So there's no way to have 100% memory for your own usage. |
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cwc Veteran
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 1281 Location: Tri-Cities, WA USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:21 am Post subject: Re: motherboards that work well with gentoo ? |
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Anon-E-moose wrote: | cwc wrote: | My last post was in reference to my ASUS A8V-VM Motherboard and it only seeing 3 gigs of RAM. |
The max that motherboard holds is 4 gig, which is 4 1 gig sticks.
Anything larger than a 1 gig stick likely won't be recognized (by system/bios).
And what do you mean by "not recognized"?
Are you referring to the operating system, or the board itself?
X86 mode will only see ~3.7 gig. |
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azzerare ~ # uname -a
Linux azzerare 3.7.10-gentoo #1 SMP Sun Mar 17 22:09:45 PDT 2013 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
azzerare ~ # free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 3233 2654 578 0 437 1044
-/+ buffers/cache: 1171 2061
Swap: 8192 2 8189
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This board does have an on board video. _________________ Without diversity there can be no evolution:) |
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Anon-E-moose Watchman
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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That's 3.2 Gig.
That's total memory available, not including what the kernel takes or any set aside for other uses. _________________ PRIME x570-pro, 3700x, 6.1 zen kernel
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bammbamm808 Guru
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:32 am Post subject: |
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AaronPPC wrote: | I just built a new rig on an Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0 motherboard. I believe it will meet all of your criteria. It is an AMD AM3+ board with an nVidia 990 chipset and is $140 at Newegg. It works perfectly under Linux. Suspend and hibernate even works! |
Same board here. Great build and my quadcore really helps with emerges. Make sure your power supply is both high quality and has ample rated wattage. I would avoid MSI motherboards. I haven't had much luck with them. _________________ MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk
Ryzen 3900x
32Gb Samsung B-die (16GB dual rank x2) DDR4 @ 3200MHz, cl14
Geforce RTX 2070S 8GB
Samsung m.2 NVME pcie-3.0
Etc.... |
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cwc Veteran
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 1281 Location: Tri-Cities, WA USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:18 am Post subject: |
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bammbamm808 wrote: | AaronPPC wrote: | I just built a new rig on an Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0 motherboard. I believe it will meet all of your criteria. It is an AMD AM3+ board with an nVidia 990 chipset and is $140 at Newegg. It works perfectly under Linux. Suspend and hibernate even works! |
Same board here. Great build and my quadcore really helps with emerges. Make sure your power supply is both high quality and has ample rated wattage. I would avoid MSI motherboards. I haven't had much luck with them. |
I've got a Thermal take 600w PS _________________ Without diversity there can be no evolution:) |
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