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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:41 pm    Post subject: motherboards that work well with gentoo ? Reply with quote

My last post was in reference to my ASUS A8V-VM Motherboard and it only seeing 3 gigs of RAM.
Some said I should drive over it. Well, I'd like to keep it and get a new Motherboard preferably AMD because of cost.
I'd also like to stick with Nvidia unless I could be convinced ATI would be an advantage.
I'm a Java, PHP, and Arduino programmer.
I also want to run Blender.

The ASUS A8V-VM worked well with Gentoo.

What Motherboards are ya all using and what could you recommend. <$200
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should probably moved to kernel and hardware for better results.

5 years ago I built my computer with a Gigabyte board and haven't had any problems so far. I'm too lazy to search for the specifications since the board is so old. At the same time I also built one computer with an Asrock board, and a friend has one box with the same board and both worked and still do without problems.

I'd stick to NVidia for the time being because Nvidia works well here.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a pair of MSI boards and was disappointed. One had a faulty memory channel, but it was a long time before I got around to troubleshooting the problem.

I replaced it and another older system with identical Gigabyte boards (AMD). I've been happy.

Unless I had a reason to do otherwise, I'd probably go with Gigabyte again.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clad in Sky wrote:
Should probably moved to kernel and hardware for better results.
Agreed. Moved as suggested.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwc,

That sounds very 32 bitish. Is it a BIOS problem?

Regardless of what the BIOS might report, what does a 64 bit liveCD have to say about RAM ?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had really good luck with Supermicro, but they're pricey. I love their dual Xeon server boards, from which I build workstation-class machines.

However, I'm not sure the premise is especially valid these days. Which one of you have had bad luck getting Gentoo running on any mainstream motherboard? Even pjp's issues are ones of quality, not of compatibility.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
cwc,

That sounds very 32 bitish. Is it a BIOS problem?

Regardless of what the BIOS might report, what does a 64 bit liveCD have to say about RAM ?

Hmmm. . . Good idea!
I'll give that a try after Chromium installs :) A few hours from now.

Rescue CD 64 bit results
root@sysresccd /root % free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 3237 407 2829 0 34 197
-/+ buffers/cache: 175 3061
Swap: 0 0 0


root@sysresccd /root % top

top - 07:05:45 up 44 min, 0 users, load average: 0.06, 0.04, 0.05
Tasks: 86 total, 1 running, 85 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu(s): 0.3%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 3314812k total, 416456k used, 2898356k free, 35548k buffers
Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 201556k cached

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1904 root 20 0 2460 1044 804 R 0.7 0.0 0:03.54 top
1826 root 19 -1 40436 14m 5024 S 0.3 0.4 0:10.06 X
1875 root 20 0 26920 10m 7540 S 0.3 0.3 0:04.73 terminal
1899 root 20 0 142m 39m 18m S 0.3 1.2 0:07.33 midori
1 root 20 0 1736 592 520 S 0.0 0.0 0:02.03 init
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 ksoftirqd/0
4 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.11 kworker/0:0
5 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u:0
6 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0
7 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0
8 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuset
9 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
10 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 netns
11 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sync_supers
12 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 bdi-default
13 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kintegrityd
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just built a new rig on an Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0 motherboard. I believe it will meet all of your criteria. It is an AMD AM3+ board with an nVidia 990 chipset and is $140 at Newegg. It works perfectly under Linux. Suspend and hibernate even works!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 2¢, hardware I can recall using recently:

Gigabyte (AM2/3) - works well enough, got a free CPU core from a BIOS update, can't complain
Asus (various ICH-based) - works OK now, had various graphics/wifi problems when I first bought them.
Jetway (ICH) - avoid like plague. Buggy BIOS, no manufacturer-provided updates for it either. Hardware sensors were useless because of broken ACPI.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:47 pm    Post subject: What about MSI? Reply with quote

I found this expensive MSI board at New Egg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130677

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most boards will run linux (some with various degrees of success).

But to be sure, read the specs on the board and check gentoo search for problems with onboard stuff
especially the video (if onboard), usb controllers, full iommu support (if doing virtualization) and ethernet.

I own an older MSI board that still runs fine except it doesn't support iommu completely,
so I've upgraded to an Asus m5a99fx. I initially upgraded to an asrock but it shorted out
for some strange reason and they had no more to swap out, so I went with the Asus.

Gigabyte is swapout compatible with many MSI and Asus boards as they seem to use the same reference designs, IMO.

Good luck
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can also recommend asrock.
Old board was a K7S41GX (~9 years old, 2 systems still running), and currently I am running a N68C-S-UCC (~3 years old) on 3 systems without any problems. Both with AMD.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: motherboards that work well with gentoo ? Reply with quote

cwc wrote:
My last post was in reference to my ASUS A8V-VM Motherboard and it only seeing 3 gigs of RAM.

Well, if you have 3g install, what's wrong ?


But if you have more than 3g ram, then this looks a bit strange :)
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The ASUS A8V-VM worked well with Gentoo.


You should define what a "motherboards that work well with gentoo ?" is for you
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: motherboards that work well with gentoo ? Reply with quote

cwc wrote:
My last post was in reference to my ASUS A8V-VM Motherboard and it only seeing 3 gigs of RAM.


The max that motherboard holds is 4 gig, which is 4 1 gig sticks.
Anything larger than a 1 gig stick likely won't be recognized (by system/bios).

And what do you mean by "not recognized"?
Are you referring to the operating system, or the board itself?
X86 mode will only see ~3.7 gig.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also most VM boards include onchip video, and because of that, an amount of system memory is reserved (read eaten) for the video. So there's no way to have 100% memory for your own usage.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: motherboards that work well with gentoo ? Reply with quote

Anon-E-moose wrote:
cwc wrote:
My last post was in reference to my ASUS A8V-VM Motherboard and it only seeing 3 gigs of RAM.


The max that motherboard holds is 4 gig, which is 4 1 gig sticks.
Anything larger than a 1 gig stick likely won't be recognized (by system/bios).

And what do you mean by "not recognized"?
Are you referring to the operating system, or the board itself?
X86 mode will only see ~3.7 gig.


Code:

azzerare ~ # uname -a
Linux azzerare 3.7.10-gentoo #1 SMP Sun Mar 17 22:09:45 PDT 2013 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
azzerare ~ # free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          3233       2654        578          0        437       1044
-/+ buffers/cache:       1171       2061
Swap:         8192          2       8189



This board does have an on board video.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's 3.2 Gig.

That's total memory available, not including what the kernel takes or any set aside for other uses.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AaronPPC wrote:
I just built a new rig on an Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0 motherboard. I believe it will meet all of your criteria. It is an AMD AM3+ board with an nVidia 990 chipset and is $140 at Newegg. It works perfectly under Linux. Suspend and hibernate even works!


Same board here. Great build and my quadcore really helps with emerges. Make sure your power supply is both high quality and has ample rated wattage. I would avoid MSI motherboards. I haven't had much luck with them.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bammbamm808 wrote:
AaronPPC wrote:
I just built a new rig on an Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0 motherboard. I believe it will meet all of your criteria. It is an AMD AM3+ board with an nVidia 990 chipset and is $140 at Newegg. It works perfectly under Linux. Suspend and hibernate even works!


Same board here. Great build and my quadcore really helps with emerges. Make sure your power supply is both high quality and has ample rated wattage. I would avoid MSI motherboards. I haven't had much luck with them.


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