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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: install of gentoo Reply with quote

how many hours is need for installing of gentoo
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

becho2150,

Welcome to Gentoo.

The answer depends on what you want your Gentoo to do and what hardware you have.
Do you count only the time you need to be at the keyboard, or do you want to include all the time that your system can work unattended too?

You need not complete your install in one go.

Answers vary from a few hours upwards.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For example: base system + X + nvidia driver + kdm + minimal kde + some basic apps (including Firefox, Dolphin, Alsa tools, Systemsettings) takes about 5 hours at my hardware that described below.
If you not familiar with Gentoo it may take a couple of hours additionally (documentation reading, performing some basic settings and so on).

P.S.
Also it depends on USE flags set.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 hours ?
i think you need half of that just for reading all kernel lines if you want configure it good
than you need whole day to configure all use flags for functiional desktop and some application, if you want use Gentoo how its was created to be used
thats just one day of configuring, if you build all packages from source it will take you a week

if you use genkernel or just edit procesor and hardvare in .config without deep configure it and use flags you can build it in 5 hours, but in that way you will have a system which is nothing special and batter in performance than arch linux for example or any other base instalation distro

if you newbie to linux , just install it from handbook in 5 hours and keep learning how it works, its batter option for you
gentoo handbook is just a base of whole gentoo philosophy, gentoo is a several way powerfull than handbook present it
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when someone is making such statements it would be great if that person could underpin them.
If on your hardware Gentoo install takes 10 hours that dosn`t mean that it takes so long on every machine.
For example, on my desktop it kates 2 hours 45 and on my laptop about 4. My desktop is AMD FX 8350 with 32 gb ram and my laptop is AMD thurion 64x with 4 gb ram.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:05 am    Post subject: 7. Configuring the Kernel on Handbook Reply with quote

I'm trying to install Gentoo using a copy of the minimal installation CD with the Handbook as a guide. I have questions on 7.Configuring the Kernel. It says there are 2 ways, manual and using genkernel. I mixed the two. First I did
#emerge getoo-sources
and the decided to use 7.c Alternative and did
#emerge genkernel and
#genkernel all.
Question 1. Is it ok to continue?
Question 2. I think 7.d should be 7.c because if I decided to use genkernel I dont have to create /etc/conf.d/modules because udev should select the modules at the boot time. Am I correct on this?
Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

- You are fine. Keep going.
- Yes, udev will autoload your modules.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hatto,

udev will load most but not all of your modules.

Unless something has changed recently, it will not load your wired network module(s). They still need to be listed in /etc/conf.d/modules but only if it/they have been made as modules in the kernel. genkernel will build you a fully modular kernel.

You will know when you boot. If networking doesn't work and wired networking is not listed in
Code:
ifconfig -a

You can
Code:
modprobe <network_module>
then start networking by hand ... and fix your /etc/conf.d/modules too.
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