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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:18 am    Post subject: esata external enclosure support on linux [abandoned] Reply with quote

hello all,

I'm thinking of getting a an eSata external enclosure and put in it one of my hds, I've found the following one which might be good for my needs:
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does anyone has any experience with such devices or esata devices and can share the support level in linux?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, DaggyStyle,

Looks like a massive case :-) I have some experience with a couple of brands... the enclosure/stand itself was never the problem (if they follow the standards properly, that is...), but my Gentoo installs sometimes failed to detect the connection. I tried this on a Dell laptop dock and an eSATA port of my HP Microserver.

From my laptop experience, I found that I needed to reboot the computer after docking to get the port detected properly (so, they'd work once, not very handy for docking in/out your laptop when you need fast external storage). Symptoms were that dmesg won't even bother saying anything at all when connecting the external drive. Maybe it was a BIOS problem, even though I upgraded to the latest and greatest. Never posted here as it wasn't critical/interesting.
As for the Microserver, it basically needs a BIOS hack to make it work properly, so didn't really bother.

Having said all this, all my enclosures/stands worked just fine on USB. If your hardware supports USB 3.0, I'd go for an enclosure that does that too, as it's a good compromise if your eSATA fails completely.

Good luck!


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle,

I have one of these because
a) I wanted it in a hurry
b) Amazon were selling it half price
c) I had a slight preference for both USB and eSATA.
d) I wanted easy drive swapping

You won't have any problems spotting my review :)

I did stall the fan and the HDD temperature got to 50 deg C and was still climbing ... so it won't run fanless for very long.

Find one without a fan if you want to operate it in the same room as people.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

judging by the size of those things I thought that was an enclosure for multiple drives driven by a multiplexer. But all that for just ONE drive?? I think it's cheaper just the bare drive plus power esata cable and/or a usb 3.0 adapter (pro tip 2.5 drives don't require external power brick). Problemo solutioned.

by the way internal sata ports with linux are hot-pluggable just fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info guys but I made a Duh! my mb doesn't have an eSATA connector.

sorry for wasting your time.. :oops:
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle,

You motherboard may not have the connector but your case may.
If so, it will have a wire you connect to a normal SATA port on your motherboard.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, some enclosures come with eSATA bracket for your PC.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaglover,

Yeah - that too.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
DaggyStyle,

You motherboard may not have the connector but your case may.
If so, it will have a wire you connect to a normal SATA port on your motherboard.


that is right but my case doesn't have an esata connerctor
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an eSATA+USB case for one of my hard drives, ended up installing Gentoo x86-64 on it with an initrd that can detect whether it's plugged in via USB or eSATA and boot accordingly. Seems to work just fine. I don't have a SATA multiplexer so I don't know if that works, but of the two machines that I have that have eSATA ports, booting it is about as painful or painless (depending on how you view changing the boot drive) as USB... Otherwise eSATA looks just like any other SATA port to the kernel pretty much, and similar to USB (as it is hot pluggable too!)
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