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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:00 am    Post subject: The New Totalitarians by Roland Huntford Reply with quote

I've started reading an interesting book, something that was a pet peeve of mine, and which made me look elsewhere when I was in Sweden (even though everybody thought I was nuts). It's about how a chase for "perfect welfare society" is killing individuality.
https://media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1418471749543-0.pdf

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All this is not because Sweden is so far advanced but because, in all senses except the purely technological, she is so extraordinarily backward. Sweden is a relic of the Middle Ages, a State of corporations and communes, and the Swedes are medieval people living only as members of a group. It is an ideal situation for the incarnation of Brave New World.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Socialism and communism are all about limiting personal freedom in favor of the power of the collective.

Socialists and commies are nothing more than the fucking Borg!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Socialism and communism are all about limiting personal freedom in favor of the power of the collective.

Socialists and commies are nothing more than the fucking Borg!

Well if you are not brain-damaged to begin with, you certainly become so, if you are to live in collectivist society as a cattle. After two years (back in 1994) I was subscribed the double dose of Cipramil (sort of like Prozac), I flushed it and started thinking counter-culture thoughts. :D

It was up and down since then, but much more satisfying.

On that note, I'd add corporatism to your list above, it's basically the same thing. Middle management = aparatchiks. It's the same kind of people on top.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: The New Totalitarians by Roland Huntford Reply with quote

Prenj wrote:
I've started reading an interesting book, something that was a pet peeve of mine, and which made me look elsewhere when I was in Sweden (even though everybody thought I was nuts). It's about how a chase for "perfect welfare society" is killing individuality.

This is what I've been telling you, but do you listen? Nooooo. :roll:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: The New Totalitarians by Roland Huntford Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
Prenj wrote:
I've started reading an interesting book, something that was a pet peeve of mine, and which made me look elsewhere when I was in Sweden (even though everybody thought I was nuts). It's about how a chase for "perfect welfare society" is killing individuality.

This is what I've been telling you, but do you listen? Nooooo. :roll:
I'm actually saying the same thing, but you are the one that's not listening! Maybe because I have objections on US imperialism :) so you put me in the same box with your so called "democrats". You cannot apply the same filter on me as on some random US Bush basher, it doesn't mean I am pro-Obama or whatever, I'm perfectly happy bashing his fake ass as well.

I think that any big institution is not healthy for you, and that if one has self-respect, one must resist. Now if we are talking about big government, church, ayatollah, aparatchiks, swedish welfare muppets, it doesn't really matter. It's always the case of the few trying to dehumanize the many by the means of imposing the ideology and collectivist thought, and rob them of their individuality and life, and ending up with the gray crapola. Ever been in eastern Europe during Cold War? I have, I was teen then, but I still remember that it was all different shades of gray and brown, it wasn't directly San Francisco, if you know what I mean. ;-)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
Prenj wrote:
I've started reading an interesting book, something that was a pet peeve of mine, and which made me look elsewhere when I was in Sweden (even though everybody thought I was nuts). It's about how a chase for "perfect welfare society" is killing individuality.

This is what I've been telling you, but do you listen? Nooooo. :roll:
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As long as the epiphany hits, quit complaining! :P
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: The New Totalitarians by Roland Huntford Reply with quote

Prenj wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
Prenj wrote:
I've started reading an interesting book, something that was a pet peeve of mine, and which made me look elsewhere when I was in Sweden (even though everybody thought I was nuts). It's about how a chase for "perfect welfare society" is killing individuality.

This is what I've been telling you, but do you listen? Nooooo. :roll:
I'm actually saying the same thing, but you are the one that's not listening!

I was only joking. :P
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: The New Totalitarians by Roland Huntford Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
Prenj wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
Prenj wrote:
I've started reading an interesting book, something that was a pet peeve of mine, and which made me look elsewhere when I was in Sweden (even though everybody thought I was nuts). It's about how a chase for "perfect welfare society" is killing individuality.

This is what I've been telling you, but do you listen? Nooooo. :roll:
I'm actually saying the same thing, but you are the one that's not listening!

I was only joking. :P
Oh, ok! :D
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

apropos:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-27/limits-propaganda
and back on the related note, Ron Paul:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-27/ron-paul-exposes-real-war-middle-class
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