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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:52 pm    Post subject: Ben Affleck. Batman. Looks like. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The movie is going to flop.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Carter with Obama, all prior failed Batmen are rejoicing that someone will be worse.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
The movie is going to flop.
batman is all about the baddies and batman being in the dark
This film flopping is purely on dependant on the depravity Hollywood are willing to permit and the quality of the baddies acting.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Like Carter with Obama, all prior failed Batmen are rejoicing that someone will be worse.
you had to go and make this about Obama....

Anyway as I said... The baddies.
I think the issue that DC has over Marvel is the seriousness of the actual comics
Marvel always seemed to be slightly jovial and thus easier to appeal to the masses when translated to film
DC... Not so much so you end up with a catch22 ... Do you make it slightly fun to keep the audience amused (batman and robin) pissing off the fans and screwing it up as you have no baseline... or try to stick to what it is known for but potentially alienating the masses.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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notageek wrote:
The movie is going to flop.
batman is all about the baddies and batman being in the dark
This film flopping is purely on dependant on the depravity Hollywood are willing to permit and the quality of the baddies acting.
So, you're still hoping the movie is not going to flop?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you had to go and make this about Obama....
I'm not fond of pretending the elephant in the room doesn't exist. Besides... you can't possibly prefer to talk about Affleck. That's not even rhetorical. :)
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DC... Not so much so you end up with a catch22 ... Do you make it slightly fun to keep the audience amused (batman and robin) pissing off the fans and screwing it up as you have no baseline... or try to stick to what it is known for but potentially alienating the masses.
My main issue with either is the monetary obsession with "rebooting". I'm not a comic book person, so maybe Batman really could have used a reboot when they brought in Bale (was it rebooted again since then?). I like Bale & Nisson, and the first of theirs seemed like a weak storyline. I gave up on its sequels and then just haven't gone to the movies in forever. Back to reboots, Spider Man did NOT need to start over after #3 with Maguire; there were plenty of villains to continue with.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGuire didn't want to be Spider-man anymore. Hurt his back/wanted to grow creatively etc.

Batman reboot was nice.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A reboot wasn't required to replace Maguire.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, yeah. Wasn't disagreeing with that, just trying to explain why they tried a reboot.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
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DC... Not so much so you end up with a catch22 ... Do you make it slightly fun to keep the audience amused (batman and robin) pissing off the fans and screwing it up as you have no baseline... or try to stick to what it is known for but potentially alienating the masses.
My main issue with either is the monetary obsession with "rebooting". I'm not a comic book person, so maybe Batman really could have used a reboot when they brought in Bale (was it rebooted again since then?). I like Bale & Nisson, and the first of theirs seemed like a weak storyline. I gave up on its sequels and then just haven't gone to the movies in forever. Back to reboots, Spider Man did NOT need to start over after #3 with Maguire; there were plenty of villains to continue with.


I think you are missing out if you did not see the Batman movie with the late Heath Ledger as the Joker. That was a masterpiece performance; villains don't get much more psychotic and evil as he was in that. Very well done.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bogamol wrote:
That was a masterpiece performance;
No it wasn't. Sure it was a good movie. Above average. But nothing masterpiece.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They could have done this Batman: http://youtu.be/4PRaWMCmIyw
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the costume from The Dark Knight Returns.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
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DC... Not so much so you end up with a catch22 ... Do you make it slightly fun to keep the audience amused (batman and robin) pissing off the fans and screwing it up as you have no baseline... or try to stick to what it is known for but potentially alienating the masses.
My main issue with either is the monetary obsession with "rebooting". I'm not a comic book person, so maybe Batman really could have used a reboot when they brought in Bale (was it rebooted again since then?). I like Bale & Nisson, and the first of theirs seemed like a weak storyline. I gave up on its sequels and then just haven't gone to the movies in forever. Back to reboots, Spider Man did NOT need to start over after #3 with Maguire; there were plenty of villains to continue with.


Batman did need a reboot with bale, it started to tend towards the camp west version....

As to spiderman it kinda needed a reboot more for contractual issues with Sony (now spiderman can be in avengers ) and ffs.... Spiderman couldn't shoot webs he needed we shooters. Maguire looks like some creepy peepshow viewer

So working around annoying contracts and changing the lead role... Sure why reboot it. But removing Spiderman's ability to spin web prob required a new origin story
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
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you had to go and make this about Obama....
I'm not fond of pretending the elephant in the room doesn't exist. Besides... you can't possibly prefer to talk about Affleck. That's not even rhetorical. :)

An elephant that has nothing todo with batman or are you going to fi d some way to blame Obama for affleck being picked (who personally as Bruce I think he is fine... Script and baddies and atmousphere will show if the whole construct turns into a clooney/val or a bale)
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
That's the costume from The Dark Knight Returns.


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/2610181-batman_the_dark_knight_returns_part_1.jpeg
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Batman did need a reboot with bale, it started to tend towards the camp west version....

As to spiderman it kinda needed a reboot more for contractual issues with Sony (now spiderman can be in avengers ) and ffs.... Spiderman couldn't shoot webs he needed we shooters. Maguire looks like some creepy peepshow viewer

So working around annoying contracts and changing the lead role... Sure why reboot it. But removing Spiderman's ability to spin web prob required a new origin story
I was under the impression that Peter Parker was more of a Toby Maguire type than whatever the new guy is. Contractual issues make sense, and whatever the web issue was. Still, they could have continued and simply went with a new villain. "Unkilling" his Uncle just came across as pathetic. Back to Batman, after as many as had been done, a reboot wasn't unreasonable. Some more time in between, and a better story, would have been worth the wait. And since you mentioned Avengers, I was surprised at how bad the first one was. I'm partly thinking the problem was a movie format being too short for so many characters.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would seem like the film is going to be a turkey. Looks appalling.

Ben Affleck apparently rewrote most of the script, while dressed as Batman.

Anyone has any hopes for this movie?
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McGeekanot wrote:
while dressed as Batman.


The campy 60's Batman costume too.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This movie is going to kick ass. After that, I am going to kick your ass for disrespecting it!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can try but you will fail. Router rebooter.
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