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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:54 am    Post subject: Grammar lesson for the day Reply with quote

A "partitive noun" is a noun used to indicate an associated amount. For example, in the phrase, 'a scoop of ice cream', the word "scoop" no longer refers to the utensil itself but to the amount of ice cream it would typically contain.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks grammar.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that was called "partitive", like an undefined partition of a whole. For example, some butter instead of a stick of butter or a spoonful of butter.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GabrielYYZ wrote:
I thought that was called "partitive", like an undefined partition of a whole. For example, some butter instead of a stick of butter or a spoonful of butter.

You're right, it is "partitive" (fixed above), but I don't think "some" is an example of a partitive noun. "Some" is a partitive actor in the sentence, but not what I was talking about (partitive nouns particularly, which are rarer and more interesting in the sense that they tend toward visual imagery).
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
GabrielYYZ wrote:
I thought that was called "partitive", like an undefined partition of a whole. For example, some butter instead of a stick of butter or a spoonful of butter.

You're right, it is "partitive" (fixed above), but I don't think "some" is an example of a partitive noun. "Some" is a partitive actor in the sentence, but not what I was talking about (partitive nouns particularly, which are rarer and more interesting in the sense that they tend toward visual imagery).


The noun phrase is "some butter", "some" is a partitive determiner that makes the noun phrase refer to a subset of all butter.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitive

PS: To be honest, i hadn't heard about "partitive nouns" until now, just "partitive expressions".
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GabrielYYZ wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
GabrielYYZ wrote:
I thought that was called "partitive", like an undefined partition of a whole. For example, some butter instead of a stick of butter or a spoonful of butter.

You're right, it is "partitive" (fixed above), but I don't think "some" is an example of a partitive noun. "Some" is a partitive actor in the sentence, but not what I was talking about (partitive nouns particularly, which are rarer and more interesting in the sense that they tend toward visual imagery).


The noun phrase is "some butter", "some" is a partitive determiner that makes the noun phrase refer to a subset of all butter.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitive

PS: To be honest, i hadn't heard about "partitive nouns" until now, just "partitive expressions".

It's still not a partitive noun. A partitive noun is a word which is a noun but takes on a partitive role in certain usage. The most common are obvious, such as containers and tools (e.g., "bucket of water", "shovel of dirt", or are simply nouns bastardized with a "-ful" or -load suffix: "mouthful of jelly beans", "truckload of sand"). But there are others that are more interesting and metaphorically creative (e.g., "a freight car of ideas").
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
But there are others that are more interesting and metaphorically creative (e.g., "a freight car of ideas").

A bunch of + for this topic BK !

Does'nt this demonstrate our incapability do deal with whatever quantity ranging between nothing and the whole lot ?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
It's still not a partitive noun. A partitive noun is a word which is a noun but takes on a partitive role in certain usage. The most common are obvious, such as containers and tools (e.g., "bucket of water", "shovel of dirt", or are simply nouns bastardized with a "-ful" or -load suffix: "mouthful of jelly beans", "truckload of sand"). But there are others that are more interesting and metaphorically creative (e.g., "a freight car of ideas").

A boxful of old willies. A Brady Bunch of bollocks. A shedful of fartholes. A load of old bollocks.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
It's still not a partitive noun. A partitive noun is a word which is a noun but takes on a partitive role in certain usage. The most common are obvious, such as containers and tools (e.g., "bucket of water", "shovel of dirt", or are simply nouns bastardized with a "-ful" or -load suffix: "mouthful of jelly beans", "truckload of sand"). But there are others that are more interesting and metaphorically creative (e.g., "a freight car of ideas").

A boxful of old willies. A Brady Bunch of bollocks. A shedful of fartholes. A load of old bollocks.

A shitload of pussy. :o

Doh. Did I just ruin the thread? :o
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about...

A boatload of fraudulent votes.
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