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octapult n00b
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 10 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:31 pm Post subject: ardour-2.8.12 build failed |
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Hi guys.
I fail to compile ardour-2.8.12. There are lots of undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()' and `boost::system::system_category()'
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x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -o libs/surfaces/tranzport/lcd.os -c -march=core2 -O2 -pipe -Woverloaded-virtual -DUSE_RUBBERBAND -DGTK_NEW_TOOLTIP_API -DPACKAGE=\"ardour_tranzport\" -DLIBSIGC_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DDATA_DIR=\"/usr/share\" -DCONFIG_DIR=\"/etc\" -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -march=core2 -O2 -pipe -DHAVE_LV2 -Wall -DHAVE_LIBLO -DPROGRAM_NAME=\"Ardour\" -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -Ilibs -DENABLE_NLS -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -pthread -fPIC -Ilibs/pbd -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -Ilibs/surfaces/control_protocol -Ilibs/midi++2 -Ilibs/ardour -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -Ilibs/surfaces/tranzport -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/lib64/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/lib64/glibmm-2.4/include libs/surfaces/tranzport/lcd.cc
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -o libs/surfaces/tranzport/mode.os -c -march=core2 -O2 -pipe -Woverloaded-virtual -DUSE_RUBBERBAND -DGTK_NEW_TOOLTIP_API -DPACKAGE=\"ardour_tranzport\" -DLIBSIGC_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DDATA_DIR=\"/usr/share\" -DCONFIG_DIR=\"/etc\" -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -march=core2 -O2 -pipe -DHAVE_LV2 -Wall -DHAVE_LIBLO -DPROGRAM_NAME=\"Ardour\" -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -Ilibs -DENABLE_NLS -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -pthread -fPIC -Ilibs/pbd -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -Ilibs/surfaces/control_protocol -Ilibs/midi++2 -Ilibs/ardour -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -Ilibs/surfaces/tranzport -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/lib64/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/lib64/glibmm-2.4/include libs/surfaces/tranzport/mode.cc
gtk2_ardour/add_route_dialog.o: In function `_GLOBAL__sub_I__ZN14AddRouteDialogC2Ev':
add_route_dialog.cc:(.text.startup+0x23): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
add_route_dialog.cc:(.text.startup+0x2f): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
add_route_dialog.cc:(.text.startup+0x3b): undefined reference to `boost::system::system_category()'
gtk2_ardour/ardour_ui2.o: In function `_GLOBAL__sub_I__ZN9ARDOUR_UI13setup_windowsEv':
ardour_ui2.cc:(.text.startup+0x118): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
ardour_ui2.cc:(.text.startup+0x124): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
ardour_ui2.cc:(.text.startup+0x130): undefined reference to `boost::system::system_category()'
gtk2_ardour/audio_region_editor.o: In function `_GLOBAL__sub_I__ZN17AudioRegionEditorC2ERN6ARDOUR7SessionEN5boost10shared_ptrINS0_11AudioRegionEEER15AudioRegionView':
audio_region_editor.cc:(.text.startup+0x23): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
audio_region_editor.cc:(.text.startup+0x2f): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
audio_region_editor.cc:(.text.startup+0x3b): undefined reference to `boost::system::system_category()'
gtk2_ardour/audio_region_view.o: In function `_GLOBAL__sub_I__ZN15AudioRegionViewC2EPN5Gnome6Canvas5GroupER17RouteTimeAxisViewN5boost10shared_ptrIN6ARDOUR11AudioRegionEEEdRN3Gdk5ColorE':
audio_region_view.cc:(.text.startup+0x118): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
audio_region_view.cc:(.text.startup+0x124): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
audio_region_view.cc:(.text.startup+0x130): undefined reference to `boost::system::system_category()'
gtk2_ardour/audio_streamview.o: In function `_GLOBAL__sub_I__ZN15AudioStreamViewC2ER17AudioTimeAxisView':
audio_streamview.cc:(.text.startup+0x118): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
audio_streamview.cc:(.text.startup+0x124): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
audio_streamview.cc:(.text.startup+0x130): undefined reference to `boost::system::system_category()'
gtk2_ardour/audio_time_axis.o: In function `_GLOBAL__sub_I__ZN17AudioTimeAxisViewC2ER12PublicEditorRN6ARDOUR7SessionEN5boost10shared_ptrINS2_5RouteEEERN5Gnome6Canvas6CanvasE':
audio_time_axis.cc:(.text.startup+0x118): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
audio_time_axis.cc:(.text.startup+0x124): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
audio_time_axis.cc:(.text.startup+0x130): undefined reference to `boost::system::system_category()'
gtk2_ardour/crossfade_edit.o: In function `_GLOBAL__sub_I__ZN15CrossfadeEditor5Point4sizeE':
crossfade_edit.cc:(.text.startup+0x23): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
crossfade_edit.cc:(.text.startup+0x2f): undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'
crossfade_edit.cc:(.text.startup+0x3b): undefined reference to `boost::system::system_category()'
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I tried to recompile every package that ardour-2.8.12 depends without any luck.
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$ cat /usr/portage/media-sound/ardour/ardour-2.8.12.ebuild
RDEPEND="media-libs/aubio
media-libs/liblo
lv2? ( >=media-libs/slv2-0.6.1 )
sci-libs/fftw:3.0
media-libs/freetype:2
>=dev-libs/glib-2.10.1:2
dev-cpp/glibmm:2
>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.1:2
>=dev-libs/libxml2-2.6:2
>=media-libs/libsndfile-1.0.18
>=media-libs/libsamplerate-0.1
>=media-libs/rubberband-1.6.0
>=media-libs/libsoundtouch-1.6.0
media-libs/flac
media-libs/raptor:2
>=media-libs/liblrdf-0.4.0-r20
>=media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.120
>=gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2
media-libs/vamp-plugin-sdk
dev-libs/libxslt
dev-libs/libsigc++:2
>=dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.16:2.4
>=dev-cpp/libgnomecanvasmm-2.26:2.6
media-libs/alsa-lib
x11-libs/pango
x11-libs/cairo
media-libs/libart_lgpl
virtual/libusb:0
curl? ( net-misc/curl )"
DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
dev-libs/boost
virtual/pkgconfig
nls? ( sys-devel/gettext )"
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$ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.11.31 (default/linux/amd64/10.0, gcc-4.6.3, glibc-2.16.0, 3.6.6-gentoo x86_64)
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System uname: Linux-3.6.6-gentoo-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-2_Quad_CPU_Q6600_@_2.40GHz-with-gentoo-2.2
Timestamp of tree: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:30:01 +0000
ld GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.23.1
app-shells/bash: 4.2_p39
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.12
dev-lang/python: 2.7.3-r2, 3.2.3-r1
dev-util/cmake: 2.8.9-r1
dev-util/pkgconfig: 0.27.1
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.2
sys-apps/openrc: 0.11.5
sys-apps/sandbox: 2.6
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.69
sys-devel/automake: 1.11.6, 1.12.5
sys-devel/binutils: 2.23.1
sys-devel/gcc: 4.6.3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.7.3
sys-devel/libtool: 2.4.2
sys-devel/make: 3.82-r4
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 3.6 (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc: 2.16.0
Repositories: gentoo
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="* -@EULA AdobeFlash-10.3"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt /var/lib/hsqldb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="${EPREFIX}/etc/gconf /etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/games/angband/edit/ /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo"
CXXFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FCFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs config-protect-if-modified distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles merge-sync news parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch"
FFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://ftp.twaren.net/Linux/Gentoo/ ftp://ftp.twaren.net/Linux/Gentoo/ http://gentoo.aditsu.net:8000/"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed"
LINGUAS="zh_TW"
MAKEOPTS="-j5"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=""
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X acl alsa amd64 apng berkdb bzip2 cairo cdda cdr cleartype cli consolekit corefonts cracklib crypt cups cxx dbus dirac dri dvd emacs ffmpeg fontconfig fortran gdbm gdu gif gpm gstreamer gtk gtk3 gudev iconv icu introspection ipv6 jack java javascript jpeg jpeg2k ladspa lm_sensors mmx mng modules mp3 mpeg mudflap multilib ncurses nls nptl nsplugin ogg openal opengl openmp pam pcre png policykit pppd python qt3support qt4 readline schroedinger sdl session sqlite sse sse2 ssl ssse3 svg tcpd theora threads tiff tk truetype type1 udev unicode usb vaapi vorbis x264 xcb xft xml xv zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="authn_core authz_core socache_shmcb unixd actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CALLIGRA_FEATURES="kexi words flow plan sheets stage tables krita karbon braindump" CAMERAS="ptp2" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" ELIBC="glibc" GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ubx" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="presenter-console presenter-minimizer" LINGUAS="zh_TW" PHP_TARGETS="php5-3" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby18 ruby19" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="radeon r600" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options ipset ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tee tarpit sysrq steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account"
Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, USE_PYTHON
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The boost package version on my system is 1.52.0-r2. I'm wondering if this is the cause of the compilation failure? |
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Mikkl Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 79
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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I have the same problem, also with the recently added ardour-2.8.14. The corresponding linker line that fails is much more above the error message line:
Code: | x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -o gtk2_ardour/ardour-2.8.14 -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed -pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread gtk2_ardour/about.o gtk2_ardour/actions.o gtk2_ardour/add_route_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/ardour_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/ardour_ui.o gtk2_ardour/ardour_ui2.o gtk2_ardour/ardour_ui_dependents.o gtk2_ardour/ardour_ui_dialogs.o gtk2_ardour/ardour_ui_ed.o gtk2_ardour/ardour_ui_mixer.o gtk2_ardour/ardour_ui_options.o gtk2_ardour/audio_clock.o gtk2_ardour/audio_region_editor.o gtk2_ardour/audio_region_view.o gtk2_ardour/audio_streamview.o gtk2_ardour/audio_time_axis.o gtk2_ardour/automation_gain_line.o gtk2_ardour/automation_line.o gtk2_ardour/automation_pan_line.o gtk2_ardour/automation_time_axis.o gtk2_ardour/axis_view.o gtk2_ardour/boolean_automation_line.o gtk2_ardour/canvas-imageframe.o gtk2_ardour/canvas-simpleline.o gtk2_ardour/canvas-simplerect.o gtk2_ardour/canvas-waveview.o gtk2_ardour/crossfade_edit.o gtk2_ardour/crossfade_view.o gtk2_ardour/curvetest.o gtk2_ardour/editing.o gtk2_ardour/editor.o gtk2_ardour/editor_actions.o gtk2_ardour/editor_audio_import.o gtk2_ardour/editor_audiotrack.o gtk2_ardour/editor_canvas.o gtk2_ardour/editor_canvas_events.o gtk2_ardour/editor_cursors.o gtk2_ardour/editor_edit_groups.o gtk2_ardour/editor_export_audio.o gtk2_ardour/editor_hscroller.o gtk2_ardour/editor_imageframe.o gtk2_ardour/editor_keyboard.o gtk2_ardour/editor_keys.o gtk2_ardour/editor_markers.o gtk2_ardour/editor_mixer.o gtk2_ardour/editor_mouse.o gtk2_ardour/editor_nudge.o gtk2_ardour/editor_ops.o gtk2_ardour/editor_region_list.o gtk2_ardour/editor_route_list.o gtk2_ardour/editor_rulers.o gtk2_ardour/editor_scrub.o gtk2_ardour/editor_selection.o gtk2_ardour/editor_selection_list.o gtk2_ardour/editor_tempodisplay.o gtk2_ardour/editor_timefx.o gtk2_ardour/engine_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/enums.o gtk2_ardour/export_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/export_range_markers_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/export_region_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/export_session_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/gain_automation_time_axis.o gtk2_ardour/gain_meter.o gtk2_ardour/generic_pluginui.o gtk2_ardour/ghostregion.o gtk2_ardour/gtk-custom-hruler.o gtk2_ardour/gtk-custom-ruler.o gtk2_ardour/imageframe.o gtk2_ardour/imageframe_socket_handler.o gtk2_ardour/imageframe_time_axis.o gtk2_ardour/imageframe_time_axis_group.o gtk2_ardour/imageframe_time_axis_view.o gtk2_ardour/imageframe_view.o gtk2_ardour/io_selector.o gtk2_ardour/keyboard.o gtk2_ardour/keyeditor.o gtk2_ardour/level_meter.o gtk2_ardour/location_ui.o gtk2_ardour/main.o gtk2_ardour/marker.o gtk2_ardour/marker_time_axis.o gtk2_ardour/marker_time_axis_view.o gtk2_ardour/marker_view.o gtk2_ardour/midi_port_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/mixer_strip.o gtk2_ardour/mixer_ui.o gtk2_ardour/nag.o gtk2_ardour/new_session_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/option_editor.o gtk2_ardour/opts.o gtk2_ardour/pan_automation_time_axis.o gtk2_ardour/panner.o gtk2_ardour/panner2d.o gtk2_ardour/panner_ui.o gtk2_ardour/playlist_selector.o gtk2_ardour/plugin_selector.o gtk2_ardour/plugin_ui.o gtk2_ardour/prompter.o gtk2_ardour/public_editor.o gtk2_ardour/redirect_automation_line.o gtk2_ardour/redirect_automation_time_axis.o gtk2_ardour/redirect_box.o gtk2_ardour/region_gain_line.o gtk2_ardour/region_layering_order_editor.o gtk2_ardour/region_selection.o gtk2_ardour/region_view.o gtk2_ardour/rhythm_ferret.o gtk2_ardour/route_params_ui.o gtk2_ardour/route_redirect_selection.o gtk2_ardour/route_time_axis.o gtk2_ardour/route_ui.o gtk2_ardour/selection.o gtk2_ardour/send_ui.o gtk2_ardour/sfdb_ui.o gtk2_ardour/simpleline.o gtk2_ardour/simplerect.o gtk2_ardour/splash.o gtk2_ardour/streamview.o gtk2_ardour/tape_region_view.o gtk2_ardour/tempo_dialog.o gtk2_ardour/tempo_lines.o gtk2_ardour/theme_manager.o gtk2_ardour/time_axis_view.o gtk2_ardour/time_axis_view_item.o gtk2_ardour/time_selection.o gtk2_ardour/ui_config.o gtk2_ardour/utils.o gtk2_ardour/version.o gtk2_ardour/visual_time_axis.o gtk2_ardour/waveview.o gtk2_ardour/lv2_plugin_ui.o gtk2_ardour/x11.o gtk2_ardour/analysis_window.o gtk2_ardour/fft_graph.o gtk2_ardour/fft_result.o -Llibs/pbd -Llibs/surfaces/control_protocol -Llibs/midi++2 -Llibs/ardour -L/usr/lib -Llibs/gtkmm2ext -lardour -lardour_cp -latkmm-1.6 -latk-1.0 -lglibmm-2.4 -lgobject-2.0 -lsigc-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lfftw3 -lm -lfftw3f -lm -lfreetype -lgdkmm-2.4 -lgiomm-2.4 -lpangomm-1.4 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lglibmm-2.4 -lcairomm-1.0 -lsigc-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lglib-2.0 -lglibmm-2.4 -lgobject-2.0 -lsigc-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lgtkmm-2.4 -latkmm-1.6 -lgdkmm-2.4 -lgiomm-2.4 -lpangomm-1.4 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lglibmm-2.4 -lcairomm-1.0 -lsigc-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lgtkmm2ext -ljack -lgnomecanvas-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lgnomecanvasmm-2.6 -lgtkmm-2.4 -lgnomecanvas-2 -latkmm-1.6 -lgdkmm-2.4 -lgiomm-2.4 -lpangomm-1.4 -lglibmm-2.4 -lcairomm-1.0 -lsigc-2.0 -lart_lgpl_2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -llrdf -lmidi++ -lpangomm-1.4 -lglibmm-2.4 -lcairomm-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lsigc-2.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lpbd -lsamplerate -lsigc-2.0 -lsndfile -lasound -lvamp-hostsdk -ldl -lvamp-sdk -lxml2 -lxslt -lz -lm -lrt -lxml2 -lfftw3f -lm -lrubberband -llilv-0 -ldl -lsratom-0 -lsord-0 -lserd-0 -lsuil-0
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Adding "-lboost_system" to this line fixes the linking. Seems inclusion of the flag is missing somewhere in the build scripts of ardour. But I don't really know how and where this could be done as i'm not familiar with scons build system and haven't had the time to look at it yet. Maybe this should get reported upstream as a bug? |
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