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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: License question Reply with quote

Hi all,
I want to use only free software on my machine, so I added
Code:
ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE"

to /etc/make.conf

But now I cann't install gentoo-sources, it gives me this:
Code:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N     ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.4.9  USE="-build -deblob -symlink" 230 kB

Total: 1 package (1 new), Size of downloads: 230 kB

The following license changes are necessary to proceed:
#required by gentoo-sources (argument)
>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.4.9:3.4.9 freedist

So, what does that mean? 'freedist' I didn't found such at here.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Related to this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=266157 look into this file and see: /usr/portage/gentoo/eclass/kernel-2.eclass (grep for LICENSE)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want free software you need to ask for it:
Code:
 $ cave show -k LICENSE =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.5.2::gentoo
* =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.5.2::gentoo
    ::gentoo                  (3.5.2)U(~)* {:3.5.2}
    sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.5.2:3.5.2::gentoo
    Use flags                 
        USE                   
            -deblob           Remove binary blobs from kernel sources to provide libre license compliance.
    License                   GPL-2 !deblob? ( freedist )
...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, if I understood correctly, it has GPL-2 with USE="-deblob", right?
But what does mean 'freedist'?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cord wrote:
So, if I understood correctly, it has GPL-2 with USE="-deblob", right?
But what does mean 'freedist'?


I don't use gentoo-sources myself, but double negation is usually positive. If you negate "de-blob", then you de-de-blob, which in turn enables all the patent encumbered blobs in the kernel, making it non-free. I guess you want USE=deblob
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cord wrote:
So, if I understood correctly, it has GPL-2 with USE="-deblob", right?
But what does mean 'freedist'?

Code:
cat $PORTDIR/licenses/freedist
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i92guboj wrote:
cord wrote:
So, if I understood correctly, it has GPL-2 with USE="-deblob", right?
But what does mean 'freedist'?


I don't use gentoo-sources myself, but double negation is usually positive. If you negate "de-blob", then you de-de-blob, which in turn enables all the patent encumbered blobs in the kernel, making it non-free. I guess you want USE=deblob

Oh, to remove binary parts of kernel I need USE="deblob" instead?

Ant P. wrote:
cord wrote:
So, if I understood correctly, it has GPL-2 with USE="-deblob", right?
But what does mean 'freedist'?

Code:
cat $PORTDIR/licenses/freedist

Not detailed
Code:
$ cat /usr/portage/licenses/freedist
Freely Distributable.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cord wrote:
Oh, to remove binary parts of kernel I need USE="deblob" instead?`


Yes. That what I understand by reading the USE flag description. When you enable the flag you are -effectively- disabling binary blobs in the kernel.

"Freely distributable" means you can distribute the package you are generating.

In Gentoo, USE flags can sometimes enable functionalities based on proprietary code, or code that's tainted by some restrictive license that doesn't allow you re-distribute the package once you compile it. Thus, the USE flags for a given package can have a drastic effect on what you can or can't do with the final result (I am talking about licenses and legal stuff here).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i92guboj wrote:

"Freely distributable" means you can distribute the package you are generating.

In Gentoo, USE flags can sometimes enable functionalities based on proprietary code, or code that's tainted by some restrictive license that doesn't allow you re-distribute the package once you compile it. Thus, the USE flags for a given package can have a drastic effect on what you can or can't do with the final result (I am talking about licenses and legal stuff here).

It's because of firmware patches? I see.
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