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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: [Israel] Channel 10 Reply with quote

Netanyahu ‘determined to attack Iran’ before US elections, claims Israel’s Channel 10

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TV reporter adds: ‘I doubt Obama could say anything that would convince PM to delay a possible attack’

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “is determined to attack Iran before the US elections,” Israel’s Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night, and Israel is now “closer than ever” to a strike designed to thwart Iran’s nuclear drive.

The TV station’s military reporter Alon Ben-David, who earlier this year was given extensive access to the Israel Air Force as it trained for a possible attack, reported that, since upgraded sanctions against Iran have failed to force a suspension of the Iranian nuclear program in the past two months, “from the prime minister’s point of view, the time for action is getting ever closer.”

Asked by the news anchor in the Hebrew-language TV report how close Israel now was to “a decision and perhaps an attack,” Ben-David said: “It appears that we are closer than ever.”

He said it seemed that Netanyahu was not waiting for a much-discussed possible meeting with US President Barack Obama, after the UN General Assembly gathering in New York late next month — indeed, “it’s not clear that there’ll be a meeting.” In any case, said Ben-David, “I doubt Obama could say anything that would convince Netanyahu to delay a possible attack.”

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

There is considerable opposition to an Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, the report noted — with President Shimon Peres, the army’s chief of the General Staff and top generals, the intelligence community, opposition leader Shaul Mofaz, “and of course the Americans” all lined up against Israeli action at this stage.

But, noted Ben-David, it is the Israeli government that would have to take the decision, and there Netanyahu is “almost guaranteed” a majority.

Other Hebrew media reports on Tuesday also said Netanyahu had despatched a senior official, National Security Adviser Yaakov Amidror, to update the elderly spiritual leader of the Shas ultra-Orthodox coalition party, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, on the status of the Iranian nuclear program, in order to try to win over Shas government ministers’ support for an attack.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, let say Iran is evil and Israel nice...

just one question: is it legal to attack a country without the approval of the UN?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ok, let say Iran is evil and Israel nice...

just one question: is it legal to attack a country without the approval of the UN?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elyes wrote:
ok, let say Iran is evil and Israel nice...

just one question: is it legal to attack a country without the approval of the UN?

Wait a minute, didn't the U.N. specifically grant Israel all of their original 1960s land? If so, is the Palestinian resistance legal?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be right, but what's that got to do with Iran's nuclear programme?

Hm... I hope this can be sorted, somehow. With less violence, I mean.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clad in Sky wrote:
Might be right, but what's that got to do with Iran's nuclear programme?

Hm... I hope this can be sorted, somehow. With less violence, I mean.

Well Iranian leadership has been rather vocal that Israel is a disease that needs to be wiped off the map. Said power is apparently developing nuclear weapons.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, that's a point. I was wondering because you mentioned the Palestinian resistance which is a different kettle of fish - or rather I didn't see the link.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
elyes wrote:
ok, let say Iran is evil and Israel nice...

just one question: is it legal to attack a country without the approval of the UN?

Wait a minute, didn't the U.N. specifically grant Israel all of their original 1960s land? If so, is the Palestinian resistance legal?

That is what I thought the moment elyes mentioned the UN. Israel is recognized as a legitimate State by the United Nations. I don't think the Arabs living there have gotten UN approval to blow up Israeli school buses and the like.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are mixing Israel, Iran, Palestine, Arabs, ... and your mixture gives a shit!

my question is clear:
Is it legal to bomb a country with out UN approval? that's all!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does UN approval have to do with anything?

The UN is a farce.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If U.N. approval meant anything, then the Palestinian movement would be illegal.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How legitimate is that source, anyway? I was surprised this wasn't on our news.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clad in Sky wrote:
How legitimate is that source, anyway? I was surprised this wasn't on our news.


Really? Germany's track record on Jewish issues isn't exactly stellar.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
Clad in Sky wrote:
How legitimate is that source, anyway? I was surprised this wasn't on our news.


Really? Germany's track record on Jewish issues isn't exactly stellar.

OMG he mentioned the war. Now you've done it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Israeli issues are regularly on TV here. Whether it is a bombing, elections, politics. So I figured something as important as this would make it on the news in the blink of an eye.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clad in Sky wrote:
How legitimate is that source, anyway? I was surprised this wasn't on our news.


Channel 10? Pffffff... long history of false accusations, personal attacks and overall yellow press.
Oh, and they're going kaput, so one would think that anything goes to stay relevant.
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