Gentoo Studio: A Gentoo Linux Professional Audio Workstation

0joshuaolson1 · n00b Joined: 25 Mar 2017 Posts: 28

And I'd love to learn Gentoo. But not starting with the install process.

Hence why I'm here, instead of tuning Arch or something.

John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:29 pm Post subject:

0joshuaolson1 · n00b Joined: 25 Mar 2017 Posts: 28

By 'here' I mean Gentoo Studio, not Gentoo.

audiodef · Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:44 pm Post subject:

I'm afraid Gentoo Studio is still very much still a Gentoo system, just with a stage4 instead of a stage3.

John is right - learning Gentoo itself is learning the install process. Such is the MO of a source-based system. It's why I love it. I learned a lot about Linux this way.

I have long-term plans to make Gentoo Studio a "just install it and update it" distro with its own binhost, but that is a ways away. I'm just one guy, here.

Just keep posting for help, and we will keep trying to improve things.

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audiodef · Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:18 pm Post subject:

0joshuaolson1,

I was looking through my "gentootricks" file, where I record helpful things for me to use, and came across this. Thought it might be helpful to you.

steveL · Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:45 pm Post subject:

audiodef · Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:54 pm Post subject:

Finally got around to doing a test install of the Complete stage4 on a UEFI VM. Test went well. Making a couple of minor fixes and will probably go ahead and roll out an updated web site along with an open beta for all three flavors soon.
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0joshuaolson1 · n00b Joined: 25 Mar 2017 Posts: 28

audiodef · Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:22 pm Post subject:

0joshuaolson1,

For Gentoo Studio, you don't use genkernel for the initial install. The stage4 includes a genkernel-compiled kernel. You run genkernel only when there's an update to rt-sources. My bad - I included it in the tip above, but it doesn't actually apply. Sorry about that.

I'm hoping to roll out an updated gentoostudio.org and an open beta soon, and hopefully that will make it easier to have something to refer to, comment on, and improve via feedback.
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audiodef · Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:47 pm Post subject:

Successfully installed GS Complete on my Studio B Lenovo desktop. Took about half an hour, including the cpu2useflags recompile. Was able to start JACK with Cadence with two Mackie Onyx mixers attached via Firewire. So I'm happy with its status for beta-readiness and will likely roll it out soon.
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0joshuaolson1 · n00b Joined: 25 Mar 2017 Posts: 28

I hope it works for others. The tips didn't work for me. Still can't boot. Was the tip supposed to say

audiodef · Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:44 pm Post subject:

Yes, it's grub-install, not grub2-install. I edited my tip for accuracy.

Well, sync has to happen, and eix-sync is basically a symlink for emerge --sync && eix-update, so the recommend command is eix-sync. Firewall issues belong to users - there's nothing I can do about that.
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0joshuaolson1 · n00b Joined: 25 Mar 2017 Posts: 28

I believe emerge --sync is redundant after the emerge-webrsync step, as well as everything else eix-sync does (see my link to its docs) except for eix-update

I used

0joshuaolson1 · n00b Joined: 25 Mar 2017 Posts: 28

I found a way again to boot the (EFI) bootloader, but I encountered the same block device error. (minimal tarball)

audiodef · Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:33 pm Post subject:

0joshuaolson1 · n00b Joined: 25 Mar 2017 Posts: 28

audiodef · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:27 pm Post subject:

Easy, there, I'm trying to help you, too. Please keep in mind that I am one guy and I don't know everything, but sometimes I know where to refer you for better help.

FWIW, I have an EFI machine that didn't work out exactly how the Gentoo handbook suggested it should, either. I had to hunt around to figure it out. It's nobody's fault. It just happens sometimes.

I'm wondering if anyone who has already installed Gentoo on an EFI machine subsequently has any trouble following the install steps for Gentoo Studio. That would give me a good start on trying to figure out what I should change in the installation process.
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arnvidr · Guru Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 578 Location: Oslo, Norway

Do you mean on top of a working EFI install or from scratch?

I have a working EFI install on a NUC, although I don't intend to use that for anything audio, but I'm in the process of building a new box, so I might be able to try a full install in a bit (just waiting for the CPU to be delivered, and need to buy a SSD).
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audiodef · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:05 pm Post subject:

Gentoo Studio is only installed from scratch. I'm wondering if anyone who has already used a particular UEFI machine with Gentoo would be willing to let me know if there are any UEFI issues with installing Gentoo Studio using the install steps I posted earlier.

I apologize if I wasn't clear.

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arnvidr · Guru Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 578 Location: Oslo, Norway

audiodef · Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:31 pm Post subject:

arnvidr,

As long as you know how to make sure your computer's UEFI works, you should not need to do a regular Gentoo install. But if you try a Gentoo Studio install and run into UEFI trouble, and subsequently have no trouble following the Gentoo handbook for a regular Gentoo install, then please let me know so I can try to fix it.

Announcement follows.

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audiodef · Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:35 pm Post subject:

Gentoostudio.org once again has a new look. Hopefully I have not mangled something in the process of copying the site from a dev location.

So...

Gentoo Studio's latest incarnation is now officially in open beta. Please go to http://gentoostudio.org and follow the crumbs right from the home page. If things are not self-explanatory, let me know so I can make it so.

Old links to beta tarballs linked earlier in this thread have been moved - everything is according to what it says on gentoostudio.org now.

Happy Gentooing.

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szatox · Veteran Joined: 27 Aug 2013 Posts: 1707

UX pro-tip: remove those '>' from commands in the installation manual.
You could copy-paste a handful of lines at the same time if you didn't have to fiddle with laboriously skipping the first two characters from every single line.
There is a bunch of lines that don't have to be carefully analysed when you paste them. Also, marking interactive parts with some colour or bold font would help you find out at the first glance where you should stop and focus for a minute (though it's not that much of a deal when you run through it once)

audiodef · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:05 pm Post subject:

szatox,

Thanks, much appreciated.

The installation steps will eventually become an install script. I just want to make sure the steps actually work for other people with a variety of machines under a variety of conditions.
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Hu · Moderator Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 12833

You should be able to get the best of both worlds by moving the > into an element that is not copied on selection: