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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Nvidia-drivers not compiling or not working at all... Reply with quote

I was looking through the posts for others who have had similar problems...

my problem is that the stable Nvidia driver 275.09.07 compiles, but when used in KDE, gives me blank screens or even black screens when more than one window is opened or I try a pull down tab (like bookmarks)...and this one is marked stable...

So I decided to try to compile all drivers to see if they'd actually work...

270.41.19 is marked stable but, does not compile due to
Code:
* ERROR: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-270.41.19 failed (compile phase):
 *   Unable to emake HOSTCC=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS=  IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux            SYSOUT=/lib/modules/3.0.4-gentoo/build CC=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc clean module


173.14.31 is marked unstable, but is the only one that works on my system...

173.14.30 is marked stable, but does not compile due to
Code:
 * ERROR: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.30 failed (compile phase):
 *   Unable to emake HOSTCC=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS=  IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux            SYSOUT=/lib/modules/3.0.4-gentoo/build CC=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc clean module


96.43.20 is marked unstable, but compiles--although I didn't test it...

what are some answers here?

Quote:
papapenguin ~ # emerge --info
Portage 2.1.10.19 (default/linux/amd64/10.0, gcc-4.5.3, glibc-2.13-r4, 3.0.4-gentoo x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-3.0.4-gentoo-x86_64-AMD_Turion-tm-_64_X2_Mobile_Technology_TL-50-with-gentoo-2.0.3
Timestamp of tree: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:30:01 +0000
app-shells/bash: 4.2_p10
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11-r3
dev-lang/python: 2.7.2-r3, 3.2.2
dev-util/cmake: 2.8.5-r2
dev-util/pkgconfig: 0.26
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.3
sys-apps/openrc: 0.9.3-r1
sys-apps/sandbox: 2.5
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.68
sys-devel/automake: 1.10.3, 1.11.1-r1
sys-devel/binutils: 2.21.1-r1
sys-devel/gcc: 4.5.3-r1
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1-r1
sys-devel/libtool: 2.4-r1
sys-devel/make: 3.82-r3
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 2.6.39 (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc: 2.13-r4
Repositories: gentoo proaudio
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="* -@EULA skype-eula dlj-1.1 AdobeFlash-10.1 www-plugins/google-talkplugin"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=native -msse3 -O2 -pipe -ggdb"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt /usr/share/maven-bin-3.0/conf /var/lib/hsqldb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/php/apache2-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c"
CXXFLAGS="-march=native -msse3 -O2 -pipe -ggdb"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--autounmask=n"
FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles fixpackages news parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms splitdebug strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch"
FFLAGS=""
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/var/lib/layman/pro-audio"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X a52 aac accessibility acl acpi aim alsa amd64 apache2 apng berkdb bluetooth bzip2 cairo caps cdb cddb cdinstall cdparanoia cdr cli consolekit cracklib crypt css cups cxx dbus declarative device-mapper dri dv dvb dvd dvdr enca encode extras ffmpeg flac fortran freetype ftp gd gdbm gif gnutls gpm gstreamer hpcups iconv imap ipod ipv6 jabber jack jadetex java javascript jingle jpeg kde kontact kpathsea laptop lcms mad matroska melt minizip mmx mng modules mp3 mpeg mplayer msn mssql mudflap multilib mysql mysqli ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin nvidia objc ogg openexr opengl openmp oscar pam pcmcia pcre pda pdf perl php plasma png policykit ppds pppd python qt-static qt3support qt4 quicktime raw readline reports rss ruby scanner sdl secure-delete semantic-desktop session snmp source sox speex spell splitdebug sql sse sse2 ssl svg sysfs syslog tcpd theora tidy tiff timidity tools truetype udev unicode usb v4l v4l2 vcd video vorbis webkit wifi wv2 xine xinerama xml xorg xv yahoo zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CALLIGRA_FEATURES="kexi words flow plan stage tables krita karbon braindump" CAMERAS="ptp2" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" ELIBC="glibc" GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ubx" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics evdev" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" PHP_TARGETS="php5-3" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby18" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nv v4l" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options ipset ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tee tarpit sysrq steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account"
Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knowing what card you have might help.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops...
Quote:
papapenguin ~ # lspci
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [Geforce Go 6150] (rev a2)
00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3)
00:0a.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PMU (rev a3)
00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev f1)
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev f1)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
07:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
07:05.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
07:05.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 01)
07:05.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 0a)
07:05.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 05)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1/ Your Ge 6150 should be OK with 275 series. Nvidia even recommends 280 for this card.
2/ I am running troublefree nvidia-drivers 275.09.07 + KDE 4.6.5 with my 9800 GT.
(Running Xorg-server 1.10.4 / 2.6.38 kernel)

- What were you running prior to 275.09.07 ?
- Anything wrong in xorg.logs ?
- Is is only under KDE or also under plain X ?
- There has been in the past (around 2.6.36) known black screen problems with nvidia. Can you test with an < 3.0 kernel ?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found the last version that really works is 173.14.31, but haven't tried the 275 drivers with the lower kernels...

Where would I find the xorg.log to see if there is a problem?

also...not sure if this would create the same problem in X as I have only used KDE...

not sure what else to do...what other 'tests' can I try?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

papapenguin wrote:
Where would I find the xorg.log to see if there is a problem?

/var/log/Xorg.0.log

EDIT : How do you start X and kde ?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use startx...on startup, it defaults to KDM...

I have my xorg.0.log at pastebin...also noticed I have xorg.1.log and xorg.8.log...not sure what those mean...and it looks like I need to clean up xorg, but don't really know what to do there (I'm more of a user, no skills there)

http://pastebin.com/8LRCnGKt
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Xorg.0.log you posted, had you had your blank screen problem immediately before you captured your log ?

EDIT : Is compositing enabled or disabled. If enabled then disable compositing.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was posted yesterday afternoon, after I 'tested' all of the nvidia-drivers...

should I install the new driver, then post the new xorg log?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

papapenguin wrote:
that was posted yesterday afternoon, after I 'tested' all of the nvidia-drivers...

should I install the new driver, then post the new xorg log?

Yes please but wait for the problem to occur before capturing the log.
And disable compositing.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Nvidia-drivers not compiling or not working at all... Reply with quote

papapenguin wrote:

173.14.31 is marked unstable, but is the only one that works on my system...
...

This "is marked un/stable" comments looks like an hidden complain as "It is mark stable but doesn't work"
And you're using an unstable kernel 3.0.4, just to remind you where your logic fail there...

To help you i would say :
Don't use kernel 3.x series until everyone will be more aware of troubles that series might just gave because the first number grow from 2 to 3, as this is enough to show weakness on many programs/scripts/ebuild... that doesn't handle that as they should.
And looking at your kernel headers version, i would say, use a 2.6.39 and i'm pretty sure the drivers will work as they should.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks krinn, no complaints, hidden or unhidden here...I was trying to see for myself which drivers I could compile, as an experiment...one of my interests was to see whether the packages marked stable or unstable were working on my system, and whether or not I should attempt to go back to an all stable environment...and furthermore whether or not mixing software branches was creating problems on my system...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, I downgraded my kernel to the last stable...2.6.39-r3

here is the message I got regarding nvidia...not sure if it's relevant, but...
Code:
>>> Install nvidia-drivers-275.09.07 into /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.09.07/image/ category x11-drivers
 * Installing nvidia module
>>> Completed installing nvidia-drivers-275.09.07 into /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.09.07/image/

ecompressdir: bzip2 -9 /usr/share/man

 * QA Notice: Found an absolute symlink in a library directory:
 *            usr/lib64/libnvcuvid.so -> /usr/lib64/libnvcuvid.so.275.09.07
 *            It should be a relative symlink if in the same directory
 *            or a linker script if it crosses the /usr boundary.

 * QA Notice: Found an absolute symlink in a library directory:
 *            usr/lib64/libnvidia-cfg.so -> /usr/lib64/libnvidia-cfg.so.275.09.07
 *            It should be a relative symlink if in the same directory
 *            or a linker script if it crosses the /usr boundary.

 * QA Notice: Found an absolute symlink in a library directory:
 *            usr/lib64/libnvidia-ml.so -> /usr/lib64/libnvidia-ml.so.275.09.07
 *            It should be a relative symlink if in the same directory
 *            or a linker script if it crosses the /usr boundary.
 * QA Notice: Missing soname symlink(s) will be automatically created:
 *
 *      usr/lib64/libnvidia-cfg.so.1 -> libnvidia-cfg.so.275.09.07
 *      usr/lib64/libnvidia-ml.so.1 -> libnvidia-ml.so.275.09.07
 *      usr/lib64/libnvcuvid.so.1 -> libnvcuvid.so.275.09.07
 *      usr/lib64/libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1 -> libXvMCNVIDIA.so.275.09.07
 *

>>> Installing (1 of 1) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.09.07
 * Updating module dependencies for 2.6.39-gentoo-r3 ...                                                      [ ok ]
 * Removing x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.09.07 from moduledb.
Switching to nvidia OpenGL interface... done
 * Updating module dependencies for 2.6.39-gentoo-r3 ...                                                      [ ok ]
 * Adding module to moduledb.
Switching to nvidia OpenGL interface... done

 * You must be in the video group to use the NVIDIA device
 * For more info, read the docs at
 * http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml#doc_chap3_sect6
 *
 * This ebuild installs a kernel module and X driver. Both must
 * match explicitly in their version. This means, if you restart
 * X, you must modprobe -r nvidia before starting it back up
 *
 * To use the NVIDIA GLX, run "eselect opengl set nvidia"
 *
 * NVIDIA has requested that any bug reports submitted have the
 * output of /usr/bin/nvidia-bug-report.sh included.
 *
 * To work with compiz, you must enable the AddARGBGLXVisuals option.
 *
 * If you are having resolution problems, try disabling DynamicTwinView.
 *
 * USE=gtk controls whether the nvidia-settings application
 * is installed. If you would like to use it, enable that
 * flag and re-emerge this ebuild. media-video/nvidia-settings
 * no longer installs nvidia-settings but only installs the
 * associated user space libraries.

 * Messages for package x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.09.07:

 * You must be in the video group to use the NVIDIA device
 * For more info, read the docs at
 * http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml#doc_chap3_sect6
 *
 * This ebuild installs a kernel module and X driver. Both must
 * match explicitly in their version. This means, if you restart
 * X, you must modprobe -r nvidia before starting it back up
 *
 * To use the NVIDIA GLX, run "eselect opengl set nvidia"
 *
 * NVIDIA has requested that any bug reports submitted have the
 * output of /usr/bin/nvidia-bug-report.sh included.
 *
 * To work with compiz, you must enable the AddARGBGLXVisuals option.
 *
 * If you are having resolution problems, try disabling DynamicTwinView.
 *
 * USE=gtk controls whether the nvidia-settings application
 * is installed. If you would like to use it, enable that
 * flag and re-emerge this ebuild. media-video/nvidia-settings
 * no longer installs nvidia-settings but only installs the
 * associated user space libraries.
>>> Auto-cleaning packages...

>>> No outdated packages were found on your system.

 * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

 * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf' needs updating.
 * See the CONFIGURATION FILES section of the emerge
 * man page to learn how to update config files.
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now I'm rebooting to that environment...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope...

nvidia-drivers-275.09.07 doesn't work on my system...

I rebuilt/downgraded my kernel to 2.6.39-r3, recompiled the nvidia-drivers and while Konqueror has 2 tabs...I get a 'blank' Bookmarks tab and if I open any other program, the window that opens (Kontact, in this case) is black...

Why do the 173 drivers work and 275 don't?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

papapenguin wrote:
Why do the 173 drivers work and 275 don't?


maybe because 173 doesn't have that option and 275 yes and your card have troubles with it
Code:
* If you are having resolution problems, try disabling DynamicTwinView.



also you should check that :
Code:

  * QA Notice: Found an absolute symlink in a library directory:


and that too :
Code:
 * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf' needs updating.
 


Else lookout nvidia forum for your card and driver specific trouble, if it was a general 275 trouble, every owner of nvidia card would have complain already.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I have resolution problems...

1. How would I change the absolute symlink? and do you think that is the problem?

2. I ran etc-update before I rebooted into the environment...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for me i see that new option is (at least) known to trouble with resolution, but as you, i don't know what a "resolution" problem could be, except and this time not like you, that i assume that "resolution" might just hide some others troubles : it's a new function and it seems many users report troubles with it already : enough for me to consider it unsafe so.
and having a card that put some random windows black could be the same effect as one user seeing a fully black windows that will then be report as "resolution" problem.

move the symlink away (don't delete, just move them away), reinstall nvidia drivers and it will recreate them, or ln -s yourself if you're in mood.
i don't think it would be a problem, but that's not what QA team think, so i would say i trust QA team more than me.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have GF 6100 and use
Code:
[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers (270.41.19@14.09.2011): NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries
Code:
Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0, gcc-4.5.3, glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.37-gentoo-r4 i686)


I have used nvidia-drivers since 260.* with gentoo and always works good. I don't use KDE. I hope this info help You somehow.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest trying out the latest NVIDIA drivers, they're masked due to causing major problems with gnome apps, stuff like gnome-system-monitor and xarchiver making them use 100% CPU constantly but since you're a KDE user it shouldn't matter, just the same as it doesn't matter to me since I use openbox.

All you'll need to do is unmask them then just try them out.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I unmasked the 275 version again on my computer, compiled the driver and tried again to make the blank screens happen...they're certainly not as prevalent, but the 3rd window that I open (in this case 1-Konqueror, 2-Okular and 3-Kontact), Kontact shows as a black window in full screen mode. When I collapse the window, it becomes viewable.

I tested this in other orders as well, with other programs...and every 3rd window becomes black...

The one thing that is different is that the pull down menus on Konqueror are now fully visible, whereas before they were blank--not black, but just blank gray windows...

with the black screen up--here is my xorg.0.log:
http://pastebin.com/8mr71hKq

I'm not sure how to move the symlink, so to test that I'd need a little more guidance...

I'm pretty sure that I don't have dynamictwinview enabled...

I'd sure like to solve this problem, or at least find out exactly why I'm having this problem...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Try without kde, to check a problem only with kde and a bug in kde (ahah from all i have read about kde, if it's that, you better switch to another DE, looks like kde devs are bull heads)
-You can seek out nvidia forum for trouble with 6x card (but as l4nce shown already, you might not find something useful against that card serie, but maybe something against that card and kde exist in their forum already)

Because i'm afraid your problem won't be answer by xorg.log and black/empty windows looks like you're lacking video memory
- try higher your shared memory (look in your bios for video memory option)
- test with a 640x480 resolution to lower memory consumption
- test with composite disable to remove 3D (this will also lower memory usage)

- And last, stop the auto detection crap, build a real xorg.conf that will do what YOU wish : you will stop using all those screens for nothing, stop loading the nv driver while having the nvidia-drivers loaded...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks krinn, I'm certainly not a software developer, but choose to use open source, so some of these things I have trouble with...
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Because i'm afraid your problem won't be answer by xorg.log and black/empty windows looks like you're lacking video memory

Perhaps, but this doesn't explain why I didn't have any problems with nvidia drivers previous to 174...does it?
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- And last, stop the auto detection crap, build a real xorg.conf that will do what YOU wish : you will stop using all those screens for nothing, stop loading the nv driver while having the nvidia-drivers loaded...

ok, I agree in principle, but xorg is so complicated to me and the last time I tried to change some things, I completely borked my system...if you have some specific ideas to try, I'd love to hear them (for example, disabling nv driver--is it as simple as taking nv out of my etc/make.conf file?)

thanks again...and I'm gonna solve this thing no matter what... :?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

papapenguin wrote:
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Because i'm afraid your problem won't be answer by xorg.log and black/empty windows looks like you're lacking video memory

Perhaps, but this doesn't explain why I didn't have any problems with nvidia drivers previous to 174...does it?

In theory yes, but you never know what they could change in the drivers : like forcing a double buffer while older driver weren't using it (for nvidia) or like kde devs that are using something older nvidia drivers were handling and newer not (for kde)...
per example : ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/177.80/README/appendix-b.html
if you look at that option :
Quote:
Option "AllowSHMPixmaps" "boolean"
This option will be disabled by default in a future driver release.

Default: on (shared memory pixmaps are allowed).

And your xorg.log says it's disable, this tell us two things: if one use that option to draw something
1- It tell that "one" (kde/xorg/anyone you wish) is using an option nvidia already says they won't allow in newer drivers, not the first time someone is using a deprecated thing that will cause issue later. Could explain older drivers are working and newer not
2- That my assumption that xorg.log won't be of help was wrong :)

papapenguin wrote:

if you have some specific ideas to try, I'd love to hear them (for example, disabling nv driver--is it as simple as taking nv out of my etc/make.conf file?)


There's plenty way to solve that seriously :
- you can seek out a xorg/6x couple ready made in google
- you can ask another user his xorg.conf using nvidia driver and a 6x card, and per example l4ance could have been of help for that
- you can ask another user his xorg.conf using nvidia driver (i'm afraid mine isn't that clean, but if you wish it)
- you can try xorg --configure to have a basic xorg file to work on
- you can try the nvidia (i don't remember the name) but nvidia also build an xorg.conf autobuilder
- you can also use the one in nvidia drivers readme i think there's one in some appendices somewhere
- you can grab one in that forum because many users output their own xorg.conf

You will have of course to adapt it a bit, but it's always easier to start on something that you know is working or just because visualy seeing the file is nearly always enough to gave you hints.

For the nv, remove nv from make.conf will tell portage not to emerge it anymore, this will not remove it, you have to ask portage to remove it

And i'm not a software developer too, just a user.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's the lspci -vv of my video memory:
http://pastebin.com/EWg2Q932
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok...here's the latest...

I installed the latest nvidia-drivers-285.05.09, which then allowed me to install xorg-1.11, after rebuilding all of the dependencies (synaptics, mouse, evdev, etc), unmerging x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv, running revdep-rebuild...

and now, no black screens and everything works fine...not sure why, but it now works...
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