Pappy's Kernel Seeds Part IV

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject:

My most heartfelt apologies, but the main site is down again. I am hoping to have it back up tomorrow.

Cheers,
Pappy
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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:40 pm Post subject:

I have made it so the main site is now running on my main laptop. It's running through wireless, so it might be a bit slow, but it is up and running.

Cheers,
Pappy
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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:11 am Post subject:

In honor of the three year anniversary of Pappy's Kernel Seeds, I've updated the main page as well as the donations page. Please stop by and check out the new pages. As always, enjoy!

Cheers,
Pappy
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject:

pappy_mcfae,

30 years for the kernel and three years for kernel-seeds. Happy anniversary.
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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject:

Thank you, kind sir. I couldn't have done it without your help.

Cheers,
Pappy
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Moriah · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:31 pm Post subject:

Isn't that *20* years for the kernel?
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject:

Moriah,

Correct. Its the start of its 3rd decade.
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DaggyStyle · Watchman Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5909

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject:

Yes. The 3.0.0 series is workable. The only real problem I've seen with it is that single processor machines will not show coretemp properly. As a matter of fact, none of the sensor apps will show it. I haven't figured out why that is, but I haven't really had time to devote to finding out what the deal is with coretemp. On multiprocessor systems, things work fine, after you reset your sensor app for new coretemp settings.

Other than that, I haven't noted a real speed improvement. The 3.0.x series may do you well. Once again, you'll have to do a bit of experimentation.

Cheers,
Pappy
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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject:

At long last, I believe I have worked out the issues with the server and the routers that go between it and the Internet. In other words, the site is back up and running on its normal server. That will make this old lappy happy. The cooling fan sounds like its eating gravel. It makes it hard to sleep when it's sitting next to my head.

Cheers,
Pappy
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DaggyStyle · Watchman Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5909

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:42 am Post subject:

You're right. That bug shouldn't be an issue with a multi-core system. I will; however, warn you against turning up the timer frequency over 300Hz. That can cause issues with i7 processors...and has in the past.

As for support for your video card, I'd be just slightly wary as KMS is still buggy with certain ATI video cards. If there is an Intel GPU on the mobo, that might be a better option, as KMS is practically bulletproof with the Intel GPU's at this stage of the game.

If not, you may have issues with X. I would imagine other stuff will run just fine. I'd look the card up via google and see what its state of Linux support is at this time. Good luck.

Cheers,
Pappy
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DaggyStyle · Watchman Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5909

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:42 pm Post subject:

If you're going to use X, you want something that will work with it. As I said, ATI KMS is not as developed as KMS for Intel. One of the problems with Linux is the development curve lags behind the world made by Bill Gates. We all know that sad reality, at least those of us who like to live on the bleeding edge here in Gentoo land. When I first bought this laptop, it took three months before I could use the wireless adapter. The first driver I got to work for it was ndiswrapper...which ironically remains the best and fastest driver for the adapter.

If you want to use it as a multi seat system, then X might not even be an issue. If X isn't an issue, then there's really no need for the ATI card. If you do want X, for the time being, you might want to stick with the Intel GPU. Once again, it is well supported by the latest and greatest version of xorg-server. If the ATI card is between three and six months old, then it might be well supported. As I said, it is something with which you will have to experiment.

As for the 300Hz timer issue, the final timer speed is a function of the basic setting multiplied by the number of cores/hyper-threads. When you crank the speed beyond 300, you would wind up with timer speeds around 8000Hz. Even as fast as multi-core chips can go, there is a practical limit to their speed, not as a function of the speed itself, but as a function of what the rest of the system (including the software setup) can handle. By setting things at 300, you avoid driver issues that can cause lock-ups, boot failures, and other than stable operation, especially under load. I have seen all of the above happen with users who have used seeds with over-cranked timers.

I wish I could remember where I read that, but if you look it up, you will find that it is an issue. When you have that many cores working on your behalf, even if you crank down the timer speed, you will still have a ball-burning MOFO of a system.

Cheers,
Pappy
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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:09 am Post subject:

Even though I feel like I'm playing, "Where on Earth is kernel-dot-org," portage did come across with some source today. I've just uploaded .configs for 2.6.32-hardened-r68 and 3.0.4-hardened-r2 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

I just know when kernel-dot-org comes back, I'm going to be very busy making seeds. Bringeth it on-eth.

Cheers,
Pappy
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FizzyWidget · Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:43 am Post subject:

pappy can you go from x64 to x86 using one of your seeds? I have the x64 one you did for my laptop but have decided to put x86 gentoo on there, thanks to your help I have the seed how i need it for it to show my card reader, so don't really want to go through all the hassle of trying to get that working again

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Martin Cmelik · n00b Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Posts: 42 Location: Prague

Hi Pappy,

is it possible to put into seeds folder file (for example) latest-kernel.txt
So it will be on path http://kernel-seeds.org/seeds/64_bit/hardened/latest-kernel.txt
with one line for 2.6.x tree and one for 3.0.x tree?

It will help me with my installer script.

just idea :]

Thank you
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject:

Dark Foo,

If normal USB storage devices work, card readers on need one more kernel option is the SCSI menu.

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject:

Once again, it appears my DNS service can't get their act together. Please use THIS LINK until I get the issue fixed...again. Sheesh!

Cheers,
Pappy
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Moriah · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:46 am Post subject:

Pappy, your mirror on my server, www.elilabs.com/~pappy, has had 148 hits so far this month; just thought you would like to know...

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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:54 am Post subject:

Moriah,

I have statcounter setup on the site, so I pretty much know (up to five hundred entries in my "log") where people are going...but I do thank you as that log fills quickly on busy days.

Everyone,

It appears as if my, "get your act together" email to my DNS service did some good. You can now click on the standard link, and you'll get to the main site. Thank you for your patience.

Cheers,
Pappy
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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:24 am Post subject:

Another day without kernel-dot-org, but thankfully, the hardened-sources guys are always at it. I've just uploaded .configs for 3.0.4-hardened-r3 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

Cheers,
Pappy
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