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**** UPDATE ****
just got the comments section started.... its obviously very new, you can currently add comments only, i will allow you to edit and delete comments later.
so comments are currently on the honer system, dont spam the comments or anything like that. so start adding your comments.
more of the comments section to come tomorrow.
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| port001 wrote: |
This is basically what I was thinking of. I'm going to start from scratch and start work on a "Web Based Portage Control Interface". I'm gonna start writing up my ideas and aims over the next few days and hopefuly end up with plan of hows its all going to work. |
make sure to send me a copy of that 
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I am still learning the mechanics of how portage handles .ebuild files so shoot me down or correct me now.
What would stop someone from clicking on the appropriate ebuild and emerging that (ala "Click-and-run)? I know that ebuilds have to be digested when not taken from the sync tree. Could a small object handler be written that can take ebuild files and prompt the user to "store ebuild/emerge ebuild" when clicked on?
BTW, I would love to work on the design of the website.
Edit: And looks like you discussed that before I read the entire thread
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thrasher6670
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| spp wrote: | I am still learning the mechanics of how portage handles .ebuild files so shoot me down or correct me now.
What would stop someone from clicking on the appropriate ebuild and emerging that (ala "Click-and-run)? I know that ebuilds have to be digested when not taken from the sync tree. Could a small object handler be written that can take ebuild files and prompt the user to "store ebuild/emerge ebuild" when clicked on?
BTW, I would love to work on the design of the website.
Edit: And looks like you discussed that before I read the entire thread
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it would not be easy to get a click and run, we would need to get someone to write a daemon in C or similar with a browser plugin, the daemon would have to check if the user has access to it Ebuilds group or something, but i still would not want to do that because the daemon would need root access, and thats not very secure. a click and copy ebuild to the portage tree wouldent be too bad thou, the user would just have to be part of the portage group.
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| Quote: | | it would not be easy to get a click and run, we would need to get someone to write a daemon in C or similar with a browser plugin, the daemon would have to check if the user has access to it Ebuilds group or something, but i still would not want to do that because the daemon would need root access, and thats not very secure. a click and copy ebuild to the portage tree wouldent be too bad thou, the user would just have to be part of the portage group. |
Hmm. I will look into this a bit. My C is rusty but I think it can be done relatively easy.
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thrasher6670
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well no-one seems to be entering any comments, there are only a few there right now.
here is 1 comment gentoo-portage/mpg123
if some people could start entering comments that would be great, i'd like to get a few in to encourage others to enter more.
oh and thanks to everyone who has submitted feature requests, i'll try to put them all in eventually.
*** progress update ***
well i dident get much done tonight, but tomorrow i hope allow users to edit their preferences and get started on a screenshot system. but for now have fun and keep those feature requests coming Gentoo-Portage
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I entered a comment for an ebuild I submitted, xmms-midi
Oh, please add stripslashes to the comment output |
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| Do you have some sort of limit in place on the number of search results displayed, or did you forget to add page numbers? Just run a search on xmms, you won't even get as far as the meda-sound category befor eit cuts off. |
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I know it's tougher to implement, but I think most people would rather have all of the tables be ascending with respect to the column, rather than row.
For example:
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A E I
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is much better than
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A B C
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besides, that's how ls looks |
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thrasher6670
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Retriever II wrote: | | Do you have some sort of limit in place on the number of search results displayed, or did you forget to add page numbers? Just run a search on xmms, you won't even get as far as the meda-sound category befor eit cuts off. |
ok i just ran that search, yeah i see that, i checked and the paging isent working, i will fix that at lunch today
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| Retriever II wrote: | I entered a comment for an ebuild I submitted, xmms-midi
Oh, please add stripslashes to the comment output |
*** fixed ***
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| SOmeone mentioned making a webmin-alike for portage, is there any merit to just making a webmin plugin? |
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| slestak wrote: | | SOmeone mentioned making a webmin-alike for portage, is there any merit to just making a webmin plugin? |
i do see that as a possibility, except i think some of the suggestions for the webmin-alike would not be implementable as a plug. aswell as some ideas i had for the idea.
one of the developers set me an idea that you could use the project to control multiple machine, say an entire corperation or household. i have thought it through and added to it, here is my idea:
with something like this you would require a daemon to be running on all client machines. what the gentoo people could do eventually is use this daemon to run all ebuilds on that machine. that way scheduleing would be available, emailing etc... the aditional options to emerge from this would be great, and with a setting change you could allow this daemon to be accesed by a remote machine... the webmin-alike project we are talking about.
this idea would also allow the project to be made into 2 seperate projects, the daemon and the webmin-alike. i think this would be a great idea. and could even allow for some good gui based installers (emere this, and when your done email me that your done and report to me any errors kind of idea).
just a thought port001 what do you think?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| thrasher6670 wrote: | | with something like this you would require a daemon to be running on all client machines. what the gentoo people could do eventually is use this daemon to run all ebuilds on that machine. that way scheduleing would be available, emailing etc... the aditional options to emerge from this would be great, and with a setting change you could allow this daemon to be accesed by a remote machine... the webmin-alike project we are talking about. |
Not necessarily. What about setting up trusts with ssh certs and just having the server ssh into client machines and run emerge via screen?
In fact, I think screen should be an absolute must in implementing most features. It should make difficult tasks much easier. |
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My vision of this (and can also be useful in itself) would be a "click and run" type system. IE, you can visually browse the ebuilds on the website and click "install" and some sort of plugin would handle the details of the interaction between "website ebuild" and the local portage system.
I looked into the plugin API for Mozilla and this is definitely doable. I just have to find a good, solid 8 hour block of time to hack it out. Heck, the plugin API accepts Javascript
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**** Progress Update ***
ok the search now pages properly, it would only page if there were like 2 or more pages for some reason. so its fixed.
the Browse Protage Link is now ls style Woot!, that was a difficult little function to write, but i enjoy challenges .
currently there are about 8 user comments on the site... i have made 6 of these. please people enter some comments. thank for the support people are giveing me for this project. 200+ visits a day, not too shabby.
well im off to do a few little things then on to the news section.
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| Now, going to apply that to the subcategories? =P |
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| Retriever II wrote: | | Now, going to apply that to the subcategories? =P |
Oops! my bad, fixed. now back to work.
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**** progress update ****
ok you can now update and delete comments
there is no longer any downtime when the portage tree updates
there probly wont be anymore updates today, but i will get on the news and the ability to edit your own preferences.
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| EDIT: Nevermind, looks like you already found some PHP programmers, but if you need more, drop me a PM of what you need and I *may* help... |
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Once again, I must insist upon the stripslashes for the comment output, this time in the edit screen.
(But who am I to say, I still habitually forget to do it in all of my scripts ) |
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| Retriever II wrote: | Once again, I must insist upon the stripslashes for the comment output, this time in the edit screen.
(But who am I to say, I still habitually forget to do it in all of my scripts ) |
fixed, damn apostrophes they are the scruge of my existence. still no takers on a programmer?
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| I just said I know PHP fluently... so, what do you need? I have been busy lately and will see if I can get some time in... I can't do something big, because I might as well do it for someone else and get paid, but I can help out with some small script or something... |
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| Clete2 wrote: | | I just said I know PHP fluently... so, what do you need? I have been busy lately and will see if I can get some time in... I can't do something big, because I might as well do it for someone else and get paid, but I can help out with some small script or something... |
sorry emailed you, i'll pm you now too... i could use like 2 part-time programmers anyway
i could use you to do a little stats gathering from what i have in the db. i'll pm you with more detail.
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The first design scamp idea is up at: http://www.toadweb.net/portage/design1.htm please can I have any feedback.. bearing in mind this is tempory content, intended to show design.
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