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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:12 pm    Post subject: How do i install gentoo on my netbook? Reply with quote

I've already installed the iso onto my usb, booted up from my usb and it loaded but when I turned off the computer and removed the usb it reverted back to ubuntu -_- can anyone help me install gentoo so it is the only os installed?
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone at all?
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddi3x3,

Gentoo will not install by itself, it merely provides tools to build your own Linux. There is no installer but you. Tools provided by Gentoo are great and Handbook is comprehensive. Go ahead and start reading it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O.o wow I was thinking about this the wrong way COMPLETELY lol but thanks for the update; It's just a little challenging for me to comprehend what the docs mean and what I'm actually doing
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the Official way as you have probably read.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml

Here is the fast way for x86 it will give you the necessary commands if you can't be bothered reading the docs.
https://ilord.it/2011/01/27/gentoo-quick-install-how-to/
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbies shouldn't use the quickinstall docs imo.
Quickinstall is ok for seasoned Gentooers.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@gerard82

You are probably right there however it can be very off putting for people to get started with Gentoo as there is a learning curve attached.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Eddi3x3
I want to warn you about installing Gentoo on a netbook.
If it doesn't have a regular hard disk beware!
Compiling the software needed on a solid state drive will wear it out quickly.
I did a Gentoo install on an EEEPC 2 years ago.
Being aware of the limitations of ssd's I used a usb hard drive to do all the compiling.
To limit the read/writes on the ssd I used ext2 as a file system for everything.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need help, I tried to configure my wireless connection and tried to ping a site but it didn't work
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid wireless connections when you are installing as its probably not going to be supported by the livecd, you will most lightly have to download firmware etc and this in itself can be as tricky as the actual install.
The wireless connection is the last thing that I would tackle unless you have no wired port.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no ethernet connection right now and even if I did it requires a website login to use
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might I suggest getting the list of packages required for your install and download them from a computer that has internet access, you can then transfer them to a usb.

Code:
emerge --pretend --fetchonly world


Take a look at the following link.

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Networkless_Maintenance
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, see NeddySeagoons' Rough Guide to Maintaining Gentoo via "Sneakernet". :)

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or boot ubuntu, open terminal,
Code:
sudo su --
mkdir /mnt/gentoo

open browser with the gentoo handbook in it,
you can copy and paste from browser to terminal

limitation: the gentoo install must be for the same 32 or 64 bit as the ubuntu for chroot to work
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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limitation: the gentoo install must be for the same 32 or 64 bit as the ubuntu for chroot to work


You can't install a 64bit installation from any 32bit live cd
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there is no way to easily install the network?
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I am aware of unless there are some livecds out there that support that.

There is or was a project called WarLinux which had an iso with one or two drivers on it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/warlinux/

Another option would be to boot your laptop with the usb stick and copy the
zcat /proc/config.gz > /mnt/usb/kernel-config or what ever mountpoint tou can write to.
Then rip the hard drive out of the netbook if it has a physical drive and connect it to another pc that has a wired connection.
Perform the install from that pc and use the kernel config from the nebook when compiling the kernel.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I connected my netbook to a wire connection and I got this
livecd ~ # atl1c 0000:03:00.0: Unable to allocate MSI interrupt Error: -1
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does the ubuntu you have already installed connect with wireless?

if so, boot ubuntu, open terminal,
Code:
sudo su --
mkdir /mnt/gentoo

open a browser with the gentoo handbook in it (Latest version, all in one page, x86 version if your ubuntu is 32 bit, amd64 version if your ubuntu is 64 bit)
then you can copy and paste from the browser to the terminal while manually installing gentoo according to the handbook

when told to download stage3; download the x86 version if your ubuntu is 32 bit, amd64 version if your ubuntu is 64 bit

this is the easy way
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes my ubuntu does already connect with wireless, would that affect my installation?
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my problem is, after I boot up gentoo from usb it eventually leads to this error
livecd ~ # atl1c 0000:03:00.0: Unable to allocate MSI interrupt Error: -1
Then it doesn't let me configure the internet to wireless or if I connect it through ethernet it still has no effect
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do the install from ubuntu
No part of the install medium becomes part of the final installed system.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SystemRescueCD has better network support that the Gentoo LiveCD and also has a good set of instructions on how to make a bootable USB stick. It's unlikely to support your wireless interface out of the box bit it's very likely to support your Ethernet interface.

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so I can install gentoo from ubuntu then? tell me step by step then, I opened up terminal and I input ur commands, it gave me root but after I input the second command, nothing happened, I downloaded the iso onto my ubuntu netbook and now I installed it on my usb with the usb installer ubuntu provides
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to successfully install gentoo
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