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FrancisA
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 Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:31 am Post subject: no nm-applet loaded |
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Hello (I have posted befor in the german forum: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6532767.html)
I have xfce and the notification area is installed and also NetworkManager is started in autostart. But the nm-applet is not visible. With google, I found a temporary solution (rather a workaround), but this is not what I want:
starte Networkmanager with sudo and then nmapplet works.
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sudo NetworkManager
nm-applet
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If I call nm-applet in the console (without sudo NetworkManager before), I get following message:
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franz@localhost:~$ nm-applet
** (nm-applet:14757): WARNING **: get_all_cb: couldn't retrieve system settings properties: (2) The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings was not provided by any .service files.
** (nm-applet:14757): WARNING **: fetch_connections_done: error fetching system connections: (2) The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings was not provided by any .service files.
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What could be the reason for this?
Thank you in advance |
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drinstant
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: Same problen here |
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| I've got the exact same problem. Any suggestions? Package versions are net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.2-r2 and gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.8.2 |
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Marq
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Location: Cracow, Poland
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess it's a dbus premissions problem. Try to add some access policy for your user/group in /etc/dbus-1/system.d. It may helps. |
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drinstant
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your reply.
I'd rather not change dbus policies in the system, first because it's not a good habit (and I suppose there must be an easier way. Come on, there surely are a hundred gentoo-users using nm-applet as non-root) and second because etc-update overwrites these changes anyway after an update.
I'm sure there must be an easy fix. If not, this behavior/policy should be changed upstream. Too bad it's not as hassle-free as it should be. Looking forward to further suggestions. |
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Marq
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| You're right, but AFAIR, dbus default polices is deny, so you must exaclty define what action you want to allow. Could you paste the "default" policy section from file /etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager-{kde4}.conf? |
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drinstant
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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My continued thanks. Here is the section:
| Code: | <policy context="default">
<deny own="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"/>
<deny own="org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_member="SetLogging"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_member="Sleep"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_member="sleep"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_member="wake"/>
<!-- The org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSettings.Connection.Secrets
interface is secured via PolicyKit.
-->
</policy>
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Now I also see that I actually did add a section to the file. I think I was following the gentoo guide from the wiki. Here it is, although it doesn't refer to org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings of course. Maybe I even changed the default section now that I think of it. Dammit, I lost track, that's probably why I should refrain completely from editing the policy files.
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<policy group="plugdev">
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.PPP"/>
</policy>
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Marq
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Are you in plugdev group? Do you restart dbus/reboot after changing conf files? Currently i'm working on ArchLinux and i can see that the only Allow definitions in default section are:
NetworkManager.conf
| Code: | | <allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings"/> |
NetworkManager-kde4.conf
| Code: | <allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable"/> |
One more request, paste also your at_console policy sections, both from NetworkManager.conf and NetworkManager-kde4.conf, please. |
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drinstant
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Marq wrote: | | Are you in plugdev group? Do you restart dbus/reboot after changing conf files? |
Yes and yes.
| Marq wrote: | Currently i'm working on ArchLinux and i can see that the only Allow definitions in default section are:
NetworkManager.conf
| Code: | | <allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings"/> |
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Yeah, but as I said, might be something I changed during my attempts to get it working. Or are you talking about your own config file?
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One more request, paste also your at_console policy sections, both from NetworkManager.conf and NetworkManager-kde4.conf, please. |
Sure. Here you go (I don't have a NetworkManager-kde4.conf by the way):
| Code: | <policy at_console="true">
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.AccessPoint"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Connection.Active"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device.Cdma"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device.Wired"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device.Gsm"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device.Serial"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device.Wireless"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.DHCP4Config"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.IP4Config"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.VPN.Connection"/>
<allow send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.VPN.Plugin"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_member="SetLogging"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_member="Sleep"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_member="sleep"/>
<deny send_destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"
send_member="wake"/>
</policy> |
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rh1
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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NetworkManager is started in autostart. |
Maybe i'm misunderstanding but do you have the NetworkManager init script started?
| Code: | /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
rc-update add NetworkManager default |
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drinstant
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| rh1 wrote: |
Maybe i'm misunderstanding but do you have the NetworkManager init script started?
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I don't know about FrancisA, but I definitely have. |
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rh1
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I don't know about FrancisA, but I definitely have. |
I missed the fact that you took over the thread. 
So, just to be clear then , this works for you? Even with the init script started, you still have to use this?:
| Code: | sudo NetworkManager
nm-applet
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drinstant
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, sorry for hijacking 
No, what I actually have to do is
Non-sudoed will give the error message and nm-applet will refuse to connect or let me choose any settings. |
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rh1
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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That makes more sense though i don't have much advice, haven't had that problem before.
Is your user a member of the "users" group?
It definately looks like a permission problem. I've never had to edit the policy files. My thought is it's consolekit/polkit related. You can take a look at this thread:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-highlight-.html |
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drinstant
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks a million for that topic link. I'm recompiling anyway at the moment, with some changed USE flags, so I'll report back when its working.
Cheers |
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drinstant
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:22 am Post subject: |
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It indeed did the trick. Booyah! nm-applet now connects nicely as non-root and even remembers passwords. Sweet.
Thanks for all the help
EDIT: it stopped working almost immediately, then I tried a whole bunch of stuff, and in the end, emerge -av --noconfmem consolekit seemed to have fixed it. Not sure why, since revdep-rebuild didn't offer to rebuild consolekit.
Cheers |
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El roux
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:29 am Post subject: |
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I know this thread is lone gone, but I had this problem with the same errors messages, the only difference being i'am an Arch user.
I just swapped the dbus and networkmanager run order from the DAEMONS array and now it works.
dbus was starting after networkmanager, so I guess that networkmanager used some dbus things that nm-applet wasen't able to find...
Sorry, i'am not an expert but this provides a quick fix if someone else have the same problem..
El roux |
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cach0rr0
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| El roux wrote: | I know this thread is lone gone, but I had this problem with the same errors messages, the only difference being i'am an Arch user.
I just swapped the dbus and networkmanager run order from the DAEMONS array and now it works.
dbus was starting after networkmanager, so I guess that networkmanager used some dbus things that nm-applet wasen't able to find...
Sorry, i'am not an expert but this provides a quick fix if someone else have the same problem..
El roux |
ah right
gentoo way, if you're curious (well, short of filing a bug and waiting for an updated build of course) would be to add something like this to the NM init script
(I use wicd and don't touch NM, for other reasons, so this is of course useless to me - but who knows, maybe it helps someone else!)
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