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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:55 pm    Post subject: FarmBot.io Reply with quote

I've had some passing interest in this project, especially since models, plans, and software has been made publicly available.

- Introduction
- Subassembly Page
- Bill of materials

However, opinions.

- Is it worth it? (cost/hassle vs benefit)
- Buy from farmbot vs making it yourself?

etc.

I'm leaning more towards this being a little gimmicky, maybe good for a high school science project. Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems focused on growing cereals, or annual grass-like plants (soy maybe), remove weed (or plow), inject seeds, water - keep clean, harvest .
Cereals are cheap, even 1000mq are not enough to make real $$$.

On the other side they claim to support plants 2mt high, like cannabis sativa the same cycle could work and reduce a lot the risks of being caught :wink: .........
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have been more specific: for food.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a question : Are you a communist?
Cost has nothing to do with anything.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigun wrote:
I should have been more specific: for food.

Food is a bit generic ....

You don't actually grow vegetables, am I right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm67 wrote:
Bigun wrote:
I should have been more specific: for food.

Food is a bit generic ....

You don't actually grow vegetables, am I right?


I have in the past: onions, corn, tomatoes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patrix_neo wrote:
Just a question : Are you a communist?
Cost has nothing to do with anything.


No, and it has to do with nearly everything.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like a nice technology demonstrator, but it doesn't make sense to actually use one. For the garden sizes they are showing in that video, it would take roughly 30 minutes to plant the seeds by hand, and an hour or so to set up an automated drip irrigation system, including custom water flow by plant, if desired. The resulting setup would be much more robust than something that uses stepper motors and raspberry pi's, would cost roughly 5% of the $2k, and would work at least as well.

On the other hand, you couldn't use your iphone to choose where your carrots go. But if that really bothers you, you probably shouldn't plant a garden anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reminded me of this story I had read a few days ago while bored on the beach :-)
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/mega-rich-mormon-wants-to-turn-vermont-farmland-into-prophets-city-of-zion/

there should be automated gardens on every roof of this prophet city.



A farmbot is probably perfect for growing marjuhana while keeping at a distance to avoid cops, it is the only logical use for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
It looks like a nice technology demonstrator, but it doesn't make sense to actually use one. For the garden sizes they are showing in that video, it would take roughly 30 minutes to plant the seeds by hand, and an hour or so to set up an automated drip irrigation system, including custom water flow by plant, if desired. The resulting setup would be much more robust than something that uses stepper motors and raspberry pi's, would cost roughly 5% of the $2k, and would work at least as well.

On the other hand, you couldn't use your iphone to choose where your carrots go. But if that really bothers you, you probably shouldn't plant a garden anyway.


That's kind of where I'm at. I don't see this as the be all, end all solution for hands off gardening. Pests and unseen weeds can still be an issue. Along with maintenance of the actual machine, I figure it would still be just as much trouble to maintain as a regular garden.

As erm67 keeps pointing out, one use would be to grow MJ. The other I pointed out, as a high school science project on mechanical based farming. But beyond that, I don't see any long term benefit.

Plus, I haven't seen the first online review of this thing yet, or ongoing blog, or live video of the unit, nothing. So no one really knows how it's going to work long term.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plastic mulch costs 50¢ x sqm here and the weed problem is solved.

http://khtgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/black_taffeta_plastic_mulch_fil-edited-500.jpg

Not to mention that 1lt Roundup costs 5$ ;-)

I prefer to use a shredder like this:
http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/flowtron-leaf-eater-ultimate-electric-leaf-shredder-mulcher-7.jpg
and use organic mulch, for a small vegetable garden like mine is the best and healthiest option.
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