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jonfr Veteran
Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 1008 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: Good visual html editor ? |
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I am looking for a good visual html editor. But it appears that the html editor in Semonkey has a bug in it that prevents me from saving new html files. So I need a new visual html editor fast, as I need to update my html web pages soon.
Any good recommendation ?
Thanks for the help. |
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rndusr Guru
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 392
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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The good recommendation is of course to learn HTML and write your files by hand. HTML editors have never been a source of quality websites..
Having that said, there is something called Quanta, which might suit your needs. _________________ If you've got nothing nice to say, you're probably not alone... |
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jonfr Veteran
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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PanzerKanzler wrote: | The good recommendation is of course to learn HTML and write your files by hand. HTML editors have never been a source of quality websites..
Having that said, there is something called Quanta, which might suit your needs. |
I have no interest in learning html. As I don't use it to create complex web pages. The web pages I use to create with it are simple and easy to use. Quanta does not offer a simple way to create html web pages. |
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chiefbag Guru
Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 542 Location: The Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Try vim or gvim. I am sure there are extensions available for this. |
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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BlueGriffon will do exactly what you want. |
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jonfr Veteran
Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 1008 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ant_P wrote: | BlueGriffon will do exactly what you want. |
As that might be, it is not in portage yet. |
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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There's also Kompozer, but you'll have to go digging through layman for that as it's in the sabayon overlay. |
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wjb l33t
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 614 Location: Fife, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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OpenOffice?
(But... raw html is about as easy as it gets, and a syntax highlighting text editor adds a bit on top) |
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Biker Apprentice
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 170 Location: A very dark, cold and moisty place...
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: |
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jonfr wrote: | I have no interest in learning html.
The web pages I use to create with it are simple and easy to use. |
For creating simple static web pages, it's probably quicker and easier to learn the basics of simple html than to learn a graphical html editor (including the quirks that you'll inevitable find in it).
The World Wide Web was initially designed for publishing of static pages, so the basic html is designed to be easy to learn and write.
There are very few, if any, quick wins in IT. In most, if not all, situations, you will benefit from having at least a basic understanding of what you're doing.
Anyway, remember that the graphical html editor you choose will show you a view of your pages as you write them, but that's just it's view of your pages. It can show you this by it's internal simple Web Page Browser functionality. Other browsers will show you your pages more or less differently, probably with only small differences, but still. Don't fall into the trap to believe that your html editor shows you the result as any universal truth. Your pages will look slightly different depending upon the browser used by the reader, who is the consumer of the information you're distributing.
Regards
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Where 'never' points in the direction of a moment in the very, very far future. |
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jmpoby n00b
Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Lyon
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Hi, and sorry for my english.
I was looking for a good wysiwyg just for html's pages, not a full IDE, and so on. I give a try to Mozilla-Seamonkey. It do exactly what i want. Sure it's better to learned HTML language, but with seamonkey's compozer you got a clean static web page without any tags that you don't put yourself like's <div>, <p>...
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Havin_it Veteran
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 1247 Location: Edinburgh, UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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jonfr, I understand where you're coming from and at one time I would have totally agreed: who needs the hassle? When I had classes that required making HTML pages, I just used MS Word.
Later, out of interest, I looked at the code of these pages, and even without knowing what any of it meant I thought: that does not look right. I came across a beginners' HTML tutorial (from Tucows, IIRC) and found that even as someone with no computing training whatsoever, I got the main concepts very quickly and found I could create a page that looked the same as my earlier MSWord efforts but required only a third as much code!
I suppose a lot depends on what your pages are for. If they are just for personal and a few friends' use, and you won't need to update them often, then probably it doesn't matter. But if you want a consistent-looking site with less effort where you can change its whole look very easily, then you owe it to your own sanity to use a single CSS file to provide the visual style - 100 times easier than changing every single page bit-by-bit in word-processor style, believe me. Clean code is also valuable insofar as it should be more future-proof: WYSIWYG-written pages created circa Internet Explorer 6 will look horrendous in modern browsers (even newer IE, usually), but pages written to standards are more likely to look as good years later. Also, if search engines are of any concern, know that they penalise spaghetti-code.
OK, sermon over. Here are some WYSIWYG editors.
Amaya: written by the W3C so hopefully the code should be reasonable. Not in portage tree, but a couple of overlays:
http://gpo.zugaina.org/www-client/amaya
Kompozer: standalone version of the Netscape editor as used by SeaMonkey. Same as above, overlay only:
http://gpo.zugaina.org/app-editors/kompozer
OpenOffice (or LibreOffice) Writer/Web: Just had a quick look, and the code is just as hideous as MSWord's but I mean, it works I guess.
That's all I know of for Linux, though you could always look for some Windows ones to run in WINE; Dreamweaver's kinda nice, if you can afford it and I'm sure there are a few freeware ones of varying quality.
Also, there may be better specialist tools for exactly what you're wanting to do. Photo gallery? KDE has built-in tools for creating these in a couple of clicks (I expect other DEs do too). Blog? If your web-hosting supports it, install Wordpress and you can write rich pages in WYSIWYG style right on the server.
If you are used to using SeaMonkey, then I'd suggest filing a bug report so you can get it fixed, though admittedly this may not meet your "fast" requirements.
Seriously though, if you can possibly spare half an hour a day for a week or so to work through a beginners' tutorial (there are sooo many online), you'll be amazed by how simple it is and how rewarding it will feel. And remember I speak as someone who once saw things exactly as you do now. |
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