Wanted: good guy with gun.

juniper · l33t Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 763 Location: EU

(or bad guy without one)

3 dead in Arizona

pjp · Administrator Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 17130

Sad. It will be even more sad when the ignorant masses further knee-jerk away our civil liberties.
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big dave · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:33 am Post subject:

not statistically relevant.

very few media outlets write about the hero who saved the convenience store because he was packing and the bad guy got caught.

it's further well documented that many of these incidents go unreported, because the good guys don't want some jerkoff media crew or cops breathing down their neck because, although they saved lives, they have no idea whether they violated the law by technicality.

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Authoritarian talibans cannot find a hobby.

McGruff · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 148

Guns don't save people; people save people.

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sikpuppy · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:41 am Post subject:

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Bones McCracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1605 Location: U.S.A.

You choose to see it within an authoritarian framework, because that's who you are: when people say "good guys", they don't necessarily mean cops; they mean people being able to protect themselves and their property, which is their right. So your joke about, "Sure! Let's just put guards everywhere!" misses the point and only reveals your own authoritarian collectivist programming.

To be fair, however, I'll acknowledge this: anybody who parrots that crap about "the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun", needs to understand that background checks are very consistent with this thinking, as are measures to ensure people maintain control of their firearms (that they do not flow into the black market) as are measures that would restrict personal sales and gifts of firearms to individuals not restricted from having them.
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notageek · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:08 am Post subject:

Wrong. You need a guy with a good gun.
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disi · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:32 am Post subject:

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disi · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:57 pm Post subject:

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Bones McCracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1605 Location: U.S.A.

Zing!

Spank!
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Muso · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:02 pm Post subject:

Bones McCracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1605 Location: U.S.A.

Zing!
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sikpuppy · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:33 pm Post subject:

Bones McCracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1605 Location: U.S.A.

It's me ridiculing, plain and simple. An "appeal to ridicule" is when you're trying to degrade your opponent's argument by ridiculing it. Here, his argument is never a consideration; all I'm ridiculing is his asinine blurting of "Zing". :lol:

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