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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Gentoo NEEDS YOU ! Reply with quote

Don't ask what Gentoo can do for you - ask WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR Gentoo !

Gentoo's Quality Status (2010/08/09)

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Diego Elio “Flameeyes” Pettenò wrote:
After my ranting about QA – which brought back our lead from hiding, at least for a while, let’s see how he fares this time – a number of people asked me what they could do to help QA improve. Given that we want both to test and prevent, here comes a list of desirable features and requests that could obviously be helpful:

Gentoo needs you! A few things that would definitely be useful (2010/08/24)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno, the vibe I get from those posts isn't that Gentoo needs more people, it's that some other devs screw up over and over and nobody puts them in their place. I'd say it needs LESS people.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


That's an issue. We have 4 package managers already (including entropy).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dE_logics' thoughts made me think about this:

Perhaps "developer hierarchy levels" should be introduced. We already have a council anyways.
What I'm getting at is that some devs concentrate more on portage, some more on ebuilds, etc.
Not everyone has the necessary skills/experience to do certain things, so I believe devs should be more restricted to certain types of task that they are best at. Also, based on their experience (which could be quantified by the number/size of their commits, elapsed time of being a dev, how often they commit, etc.) they could be granted different permissions (commit access) and privileges.


  • unprivileged devs lacking skills couldn't screw up things they should't be playing with anyways
  • for low-level dev positions the entry effort could be a bit lower which could lure in more people
  • devs would have a better understanding of who's working on what and therefore they could concentrate on their own tasks without being interrupted by other people asking them to do something beyond their expertise
  • this system would make sure that somebody isn't assigned too many tasks which he wouldn't have time to work on and these tasks that would otherwise just collect dust could be assigned to someone else

There already projects resembling this, like the sunrise overlay, proxy-maintaner project, maintainer assignments, liveDVD "one-man-teams", gentoo council, herds, etc.
However, these efforts aren't fully integrated, do not constitute a clear hierarchy and don't always cooperate or even work on similar stuff, duplicating functionality. This is what I'm getting at.
I believe making clearer who's responsible for what and what are his privileges would be beneficial both for devs as well as for users.

P.S.: I'm not a dev (yet, would like to become one in the next few moths) and therefore my suggestions have no real significance, however, I have a lot of experience with working in teams and I believe these principles are essential.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since this thread has been brought up, it's worth mentioning that Flameeyes is currently raising money for a new Tinderbox (the old one is broken)

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