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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Beijing Reply with quote

I'm going to be in Beijing for a week soon. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have the Peking duck.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Beijing Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
I'm going to be in Beijing for a week soon. Any suggestions?


don't breath. For a week.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Work or pleasure? Either way don't take any electronics
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Work or pleasure? Either way don't take any electronics
Really?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conference. I'll have a day or two for pleasure, but that is it.

Why shouldn't I bring electronics? I was hoping to take my cell phone at least, and put a sim card in it.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
Have the Peking duck.

Okay. Doing my research: http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/07/where-to-eat-peking-duck-beijing-china-how-peking-duck-is-made-served-how-to-order.html
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ducks :roll: Eat dogs. :P
And don't tell anyone that you are from Nazi USA or you will end up on the menu yourself.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
Have the Peking duck.

:lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's anything like it was in May 2000, be prepared for epic levels of smog. Also, be prepared for shop keepers to be extremely aggressive about selling you things.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it's anything like it was in May 2000, be prepared for epic levels of smog. Also, be prepared for shop keepers to be extremely aggressive about selling you things.


You just described South Korea.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
notageek wrote:
Have the Peking duck.

:lol: :lol:

That was funny. :wink:
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
Conference. I'll have a day or two for pleasure, but that is it.

Why shouldn't I bring electronics? I was hoping to take my cell phone at least, and put a sim card in it.
depends if you don't mind them being cloned. It is a big and real issue (6mo ago was the last time an employee had his hotel safe "opened"). We have had a policy for hte last 2 years that if you need to goto S.Asia you need to give export 1month notice and they will sort you out a clean laptop and a clean blackberry - they are almost useless because they won't actually connect to the corporate VPN but hey... you have aPC...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You ultra-right stooge!

Sry. It's North Korean insult, but hey! They all look alike. Right?

Make them say: Rice A Roni.

hehe
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
notageek wrote:
Have the Peking duck.

:lol: :lol:

That was funny. :wink:

I don't get it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:
richk449 wrote:
Conference. I'll have a day or two for pleasure, but that is it.

Why shouldn't I bring electronics? I was hoping to take my cell phone at least, and put a sim card in it.
depends if you don't mind them being cloned. It is a big and real issue (6mo ago was the last time an employee had his hotel safe "opened"). We have had a policy for hte last 2 years that if you need to goto S.Asia you need to give export 1month notice and they will sort you out a clean laptop and a clean blackberry - they are almost useless because they won't actually connect to the corporate VPN but hey... you have aPC...

Yea, we can't take company equipment, except for pre-wiped stuff. You think it will be a problem to take my cell phone though? I would hate to be without it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
Old School wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
notageek wrote:
Have the Peking duck.

:lol: :lol:

That was funny. :wink:

I don't get it.

Peking is pronounced "Beijing". He's trying to set you up to rook rike stoopee foreigna.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
richk449 wrote:
Old School wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
notageek wrote:
Have the Peking duck.

:lol: :lol:

That was funny. :wink:

I don't get it.

Peking is pronounced "Beijing". He's trying to set you up to rook rike stoopee foreigna.

Not sure I believe you, but it doesn't matter, I am definitely going to look like a stupid foreigner in China.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
wswartzendruber wrote:
If it's anything like it was in May 2000, be prepared for epic levels of smog. Also, be prepared for shop keepers to be extremely aggressive about selling you things.


You just described South Korea.

Seoul was nothing like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
richk449 wrote:
Old School wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
notageek wrote:
Have the Peking duck.

:lol: :lol:

That was funny. :wink:

I don't get it.

Peking is pronounced "Beijing". He's trying to set you up to rook rike stoopee foreigna.

Not sure I believe you, but it doesn't matter, I am definitely going to look like a stupid foreigner in China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Beijing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peking_duck
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
richk449 wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
richk449 wrote:
Old School wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
notageek wrote:
Have the Peking duck.

:lol: :lol:

That was funny. :wink:

I don't get it.

Peking is pronounced "Beijing". He's trying to set you up to rook rike stoopee foreigna.

Not sure I believe you, but it doesn't matter, I am definitely going to look like a stupid foreigner in China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Beijing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peking_duck

Beijing used to be called Peking. That doesn't mean that the word Peking is pronounced bay-jhing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
Muso wrote:
wswartzendruber wrote:
If it's anything like it was in May 2000, be prepared for epic levels of smog. Also, be prepared for shop keepers to be extremely aggressive about selling you things.


You just described South Korea.

Seoul was nothing like that.


Depends on when you went. Early 90s, the shopkeepers were obnoxious.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
Beijing used to be called Peking. That doesn't mean that the word Peking is pronounced bay-jhing.


It is pronounced Beijing, and was pronounced as Beijing. The Wade-Giles style of writing Chinese using Roman letters makes "Peking" pronounced as beijing. To pronounce it, incorrectly, as "Peking" it would have been required to write it like this " P'ek'ing " The ' mark makes the consonant hard. Without the ' mark, it is soft. So P = B, K = J.

Too many people in the West have 0 education on Chinese matters, so it was very common to hear "Peking" pronounced incorrectly.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
richk449 wrote:
Beijing used to be called Peking. That doesn't mean that the word Peking is pronounced bay-jhing.


It is pronounced Beijing, and was pronounced as Beijing. The Wade-Giles style of writing Chinese using Roman letters makes "Peking" pronounced as beijing. To pronounce it, incorrectly, as "Peking" it would have been required to write it like this " P'ek'ing " The ' mark makes the consonant hard. Without the ' mark, it is soft. So P = B, K = J.

Too many people in the West have 0 education on Chinese matters, so it was very common to hear "Peking" pronounced incorrectly.

Interesting. I'm actually starting to believe this, but it is pretty hard to find confirmation online.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
Muso wrote:
richk449 wrote:
Beijing used to be called Peking. That doesn't mean that the word Peking is pronounced bay-jhing.


It is pronounced Beijing, and was pronounced as Beijing. The Wade-Giles style of writing Chinese using Roman letters makes "Peking" pronounced as beijing. To pronounce it, incorrectly, as "Peking" it would have been required to write it like this " P'ek'ing " The ' mark makes the consonant hard. Without the ' mark, it is soft. So P = B, K = J.

Too many people in the West have 0 education on Chinese matters, so it was very common to hear "Peking" pronounced incorrectly.

Interesting. I'm actually starting to believe this, but it is pretty hard to find confirmation online.


I linked you the wikipedia entry on Wade-Giles. I learned both Wade-Giles and Pinyin in school, but I prefer Wade-Giles.
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