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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Live DVD Installation How to ? Reply with quote

hi all . i buy gentoo dvd 10 r1 and i want to install it . but it hasnt any graphicall installer or text mode installer just i go to kde and......... . how can i install it from dvd . i have slow conection can i download and install weekly stage 3 and install it then copy dvd information to new installation.
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sorry for my begginer english language.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really; you need to do a standard Stage 3 install, as described in the
Gentoo handbook, using the Live DVD as a running system. I'm pretty
sure the DVD doesn't have any prebuilt packages, but I haven't looked
at it myself.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i want to install it with graphicall installer . my idea is download http://mirrors.kernel.org/gentoo/releases/x86/2008.0/installcd/ and them upgrade it with stage3 by http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/TIP_Gentoo_for_dialup_users . or may be installig stage 3 ? whats better.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's better is to follow the online documentation at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml
The DVD is useless if all you want is to install Gentoo.
The 2008 CD you mentioned will probably not work (has it ever?), and even if it did, you'd end up with a 2-year old system that you won't be able to upgrade anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The graphical installer is a very bad idea; the original (2006?) version had a
shot at wiping my partition table, but crashed before it could do so, and from
all reports the 2007 version wasn't much better. If it's not actually dead, it
certainly smells real bad ...

Just boot off somthing you can use easily, like a Ubuntu Live CD, and do a
Stage 3 install according to the Gentoo documentation. (You can boot off
a Gentoo minimal CD to do the install, but its only advantage is that it's
a smaller download; if you have any Linux Live CD/DVD just boot off that.)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, if you want a graphical installer, I suggest that you install Gentoo via the latest SystemRescueCD or Ubuntu and then you open a console.

With that, you will be able to surf the net while installing your Gentoo box :P
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok . thanks for your answers . i want to download a gentoo from university becasuse i have slow conection but university internet speed is good . at firs where i download ? i download iso or stage3 . this size is 101MB is there any desktop enviromet like gnome ro it text mode . if its text mode wiche package i download to install full gentoo for my Desktop working . i work with blender and gimp .
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml :lol:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml 8)

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml :idea:

do you have an 32 bit or 64 bit cpu? 32 bit use x86. 64 bit use amd64, even if it is intel cpu.

mirrors for downloading
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors2.xml

you have a gentoo live dvd. no need to download install iso. your dvd is your install media.

download a stage3 and a portage snapshot while at university.
the portage snapshot has the instructions for building xorg-server, gnome, etc, and will download required packages, automatically, when you use the emerge command.

edit: http://swift.siphos.be/linux_sea/ch09.html#id3008776

so while emerging X server and gnome you may need another gigabyte of material over your slow home connection.

besides the
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml :)

great resources are
http://swift.siphos.be/linux_sea/ 8) especially chapter 7 for help in making kernel and troubleshooting boot problems :wink:
and pappys kernel seeds
http://www.kernel-seeds.org/
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have 32bit . inter core 2duo E7400 .
you have a gentoo live dvd. no need to download install iso. your dvd is your install media.
can you tell me more.!
so only download stage3 (size is 101MB) and portage snapshot (size 35MB) right ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i have 32bit . inter core 2duo E7400

these are all 64 bit as far as i know. so booting gentoo livedvd check kernel options, probably need to type in
Code:
# gentoo64
press enter
livedvd questions and answers
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pr/releases/10.0/faq.xml#options

stage3-amd64-20100121.tar.bz2 134 mb
portage-latest.tar.bz2 35 mb

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can you tell me more.!

if you like gnome you can also enter gnome instead of kde from livedvd. then mount media, [cdrom, usb drive], that you have your stage3 and snapshot on.
don't know how much you know? i knew nothing when i started gentoo.
http://swift.siphos.be/linux_sea/ch05.html#id2991326 [mount filesystems]
then open terminal and start here;
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=3


if you have further problems state problem and error received.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neddyseagoon wrote a howto on installing packages from livedvd but i can't find it.

ah! here it is
http://dev.gentoo.org/~neddyseagoon/HOWTO.xml

and if your home network is really useless, sneakernet:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3461249.html#3461249
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if his howto is officially released... because if you double check the url, it's from his dev space.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'd prefer sneakernet over the live DVD, especially as you are going
to have to use that method for most updates. Some individual packages are
far too large for anything but a fast net connection, and I'd guess you need
around 4G in total.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

d2_racing,

I have never had any feedback on the HOWTO and I have only followed it twice.
If someone wants to try it an post problems, I'll update it as we go.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course Roy, why not :P
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Easy! Reply with quote

Just COPY the mounted root directory (/) (inside the enviroment wich you booted) TO /mnt/gentoo ....


(/mnt/gentoo mounted as sda1 or hda1...) :o
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