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| Chickpea wrote: |
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It can be a little frustrating to configure this puppy....I have been working on it for several months...It just started to click one day.
The man pages are a great resource. I think what could be done better is if theygave more examples and better explanations of what some of the options do. They are improving. |
a little frustrating? hah.
and the man pages are ok, but like I said before, they focus too much on all the different feature/abilities of the wm. it can be overwhelming. they need to focus more on how to actually use and configure it. more examples would be great.
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Ahh, im getting closer to being completely happy 
http://bomb.net/fvwm.jpg
How can i take screenshot with menu open? i try using scrot (which is on my menu) and it doesnt include menu, i also try to open a window, and menu and do scrot from command line, but wont let me.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| fizz wrote: | Ahh, im getting closer to being completely happy
http://bomb.net/fvwm.jpg
How can i take screenshot with menu open? i try using scrot (which is on my menu) and it doesnt include menu, i also try to open a window, and menu and do scrot from command line, but wont let me.
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Isn't a great feeling when you are getting "closer"
this is the command I use for screenshots
sleep 3 && import -window root screenshot.png
Got it from either here in the forums or on the fvwm mailing list.
sleep just delays the action to give you time to do the next step.It will give you time to open some menus. I would assume that you could use whatever screenshot capture thing you want.
import is part of the imagemagick package. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Any clue on getting
*FvwmPager: Pixmap /home/fizz/.fluxbox/backgrounds/Dragon.xpm
working?
Man pages are boring, but sometimes you learn things.
Also, i cant seem to get my font Dragonwick working on my menu, idesk see;s it fine which is odd..
Anywayz, im off to bed. Enough fvwm for the night.
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You'd think a configuration app would've been made by now.
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| pjp wrote: | | You'd think a configuration app would've been made by now. |
yep
It's just not really worth it when there are such great wm's out there such as kahakai.
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The problem with a proper configuration app is that it would either have to be very complicated or limit what you could do. There are so many different things you can do, so many ways to combine all the different options. However, I think it would be a good idea to make a config app that is deliberately limited, so that new users can change stuff like menu and window decorations, edit the menu itself, and bind keys and mouse buttons, without having to worry about the various other settings right at the start.
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Although the theme system is very powerfull in fvwm, i dont think it will ever be used to its potential unless they change some things to make it easier for newer people to add something as simple as a different window decoration. Take me for example,. i played with fvwm-themes but it does a lot of stuff i dont like and pretty much takes over your config file leaving you little room to change things. There is also fvwm-theme which is a single perl script which has the right idea, but it to has its problems. I ssimply copied the output from that in to my fvwm2rc file and managed to get window decorations working that way. Some of the methods almost seem caveman like, but like mentions above with the complexity of the system, such a app would be difficult at best.
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Would you mind posting your config?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:05 pm Post subject: how to emerge...? |
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hi all, just came across this post - but i was wondering, what's the emerge command (including all those USEs) in order to get all the functionality mentioned from the beginning on in here - do i put the USE in my make.conf, or do i type them in when using emerge?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:10 pm Post subject: kde apps in fvwm, especially knewsticker??? |
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| knewsticker and other apps in fvwm - is that possible? if yes, how to? |
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| maxpayne wrote: | | hi all, just came across this post - but i was wondering, what's the emerge command (including all those USEs) in order to get all the functionality mentioned from the beginning on in here - do i put the USE in my make.conf, or do i type them in when using emerge? |
If you do "emerge -pv fvwm" it will show you all the USE flags the ebuild will take notice of. It doesn't matter if you set them in make.conf or when you emerge fvwm, but setting them in make.conf will affect all emerges, while doing them on the command line will on affect fvwm.
| maxpayne wrote: | | knewsticker and other apps in fvwm - is that possible? if yes, how to? |
I never use KDE, so I can't check, but I think you should just be able to run them normally.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:43 pm Post subject: emerge w/ USE |
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thanks wedge - though my question was, how do i actually write down so that other USE flags are being put into effect?
maybe something like "emerge fvwm USE=..."? |
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| maxpayne wrote: | thanks wedge - though my question was, how do i actually write down so that other USE flags are being put into effect?
maybe something like "emerge fvwm USE=..."? |
Ah, sorry. In that case, you should do: | Code: | | USE="foo bar" emerge fvwm |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: emerge w/ USE |
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| maxpayne wrote: | thanks wedge - though my question was, how do i actually write down so that other USE flags are being put into effect?
maybe something like "emerge fvwm USE=..."? |
Are you talking about what USE flags for FVWM?
if you do: it will show you all the USE flags available for it. I believe the one listed in red(they also have a + sign in front of it) are the ones you have "activated" in your /etc/make.conf.
I think I used most of the flags for Fvwm except for Gnome cuz I dont want the 1.4 libs.
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Some of those really look amazing, im currnetly running the latest, so could I edit the ebuild to not depend on cvs? fvwm-cvs-20030828.tar.gz isnt even the latest version They released 2.5.8 recently.
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My config is here, http://www.lucass.kom.pl/stuff/fvwm.tar.gz.
By the way, i've modified Crystal and created window decor based on Bluecurve. screenshot and config are on my page. |
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Could somebody PLEASE tell me how this this true transparency is possible without XDirectFB?
It would be amazingly sweet if it could be implemented into other window managers.
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Why doesn't everyone use it?
My answer : because I LOVE Enlightenment.
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Corwin... Is your name from some book? I could swear your name sounds familiar. I remember... He grew back eyes, or something? And something about a place called Chaos?
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Nothing like breaking your config into 1000 files
that is a nice idea, but a tad confusing..
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| Stu L Tissimus wrote: | | Corwin... Is your name from some book? I could swear your name sounds familiar. I remember... He grew back eyes, or something? And something about a place called Chaos? |
Corwin is from the Amber chronicals by Roger Zelazny.
The complete set of Amber books are on my to get list already
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