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John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:53 pm Post subject:

Could you post the values of the INPUT_DEVICES and VIDEO_CARDS variables in /etc/make.conf, please? Also, the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf would be helpful.

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idella4 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject:

john thanks. We're almost there. I was about to do part of what you requested. Now, at bootup I have /dev/input/mice and mouse 1 and mouse2 and a couple of others. We're on the same page. I've looked at xorg.conf. I know that genny has made all the devices including the mouse.
It's clearly an xorg issue to correctly configure X using the mouse. So, in /etc/make.conf, INPUT_DEVICES is blank. I suppose this must be a new setting since it used to work perfectly well without it. VIDEO_CARDS="fbdev i810 nv nvidia tdfx trident vesa vga". This is clearly the right path.
xorg.conf

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idella4 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject:

Mike, I found this http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/Input_drivers#INPUT_DEVICES
Yes it cites evdev which I've never heard of. This site says to run

idella4 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject:

UNBELIEVABLE UNBELIEVABLE UNBELIEVABLE.

iT MADE NO DIFFERENCE. all that updating and providing and it can't configure the mouse. Oh my.

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE FIND NEDDY
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Mike Hunt · Watchman Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5287

You still need to re-emerge x11-drivers after re-emerging xorg-server.

And also set your video device driver correctly in xorg.conf please.

Also post what video device you have, as there could be misconfigurations in kernel.

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject:

idella4,

When you have input devices and video devices you need missing from Xorg, you may add them to your INPUT_DEVICES and VIDEO_DEVICES in make.conf
and use

aguettinger · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 84

As an addition to all the above, don't forget you always have to reinstall nvidia-drivers after upgrading a kernel.

emerge -av nvidia-drivers
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idella4 · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:43 am Post subject:

duplication
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idella4 · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:44 am Post subject:

neddy, I knew you could do it. thanks.
wgetpaste is a handy tool and new to me. I ran it and it indicates http://dpaste.com/125269/
I've added the missing hald and dbus. I have to reboot to see if it will work. According to Murph's law, I'll need to adjust the kernel for evdev which is new to me. I suppose that answers the question what is a pastebin. Not having come across it before I have no idea how to do that.
What is an ABI?
next a reboot.
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aguettinger · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 84

The evdev is pretty important, because the new hal config works with evdev.

Make sure that you have this inside your kernel :

idella4 · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:28 am Post subject:

duplication
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idella4 · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:40 am Post subject:

aguettinger yes ok thanks. You've looked at the log already. Like to look at the next one.
It still doesn't work after all that.
STUBBORN STUBBORN STUBBORN
tHE CHANGES HAVE FIXED SOMETHING. oN REBOOT THE SETTINGS ALREADY THERE GOT IT to boot into kdm which is a step. The mouse still doesn't work. From here it's clearly fixable, but how. There's now a new log to view http://dpaste.com/125275/
genny made all devices. In /dev/input there is mice amd mouse1 and mouse2 and event0 to 2 or three. There are some there so the kernel should be right

aguettinger · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 84

What is the output of eselect opengl list?

opengl should be set to nvidia to use the GLX from the nvidia-drivers.

eselect opengl set nvidia

Then restart X. Hope that solves the GLX errors.

Now to the keyboard mouse problems. There should be a message LoadModule "evdev" in you Xorg.0.log which is missing, so something with evdev/hal still is not working. Can you give the output of

rc-update show
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idella4 · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:34 am Post subject:

andy, yes ok. I hope you can see this through, neddy would be impressed. We have

Susie linux # eselect opengl list
Available OpenGL implementations:
[1] nvidia
[2] xorg-x11 *

aguettinger · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 84

Ok, to switch to nvidia GLX do

eselect opengl set nvidia

Then I see hald is running, that's good. I saw in your make.conf from the last page you don't have the hal USE flag set, if not you should add it to your make.conf and do again.

emerge -uNDav world

EDIT: Especially double-check that your xorg-server is emerged with the 'hal' flag, else it's not gonna work.

We are getting closer. You updated over 2 major versions of Xorg so that's why some configurations changed. We all had to go trough that.

Next, make a file /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi
with the following contents (that's where hal looks for the config for mouse and keyboard, they can be adjusted, let's try this for start)

idella4 · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:51 am Post subject:

andy, right, you seem to be on the right track. I wonder why neddy didn't mention this if it's required to work.
I found out how to set it by trying the correct entry, so that's done. I've made the new policy file. That's pretty intricate. How did you come to know about such a file? I'm running the emerge world, only six packages so that's good. This updating is so complex. I haven't done it for a while and I suppose I expected it to occur more easily. In gentoo it's very manual even with all the portage and other tools. It's so intricate.

A new xorg.conf. Hmmm, well I may as well try it. Just how do you restart X?? I've seen it suggested a couple of times and have tried it in the past by guessing so what is the required command? A reboot is next and I hope that this protracted fix will finally end.

One minor point I get

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject:

idella4,

It seems you are well on the road to recovery.

I didn't mention all the things you need to migrate to Xorg 1.5.3 and later as I wanted to see your Xorg.0.log first.
It would save me a lot of extra typing.
The freetype, DRI and DRI2 warnings can be ignored.

freetype has been removed from gentoo - you can remove it from your xorg.conf to get rid of the warning.
nVidia does not use the Xorg DRI at all, it achieves the same thing its own way. Ignore those warnings.

Your xorg is running with a viewport into the desktop. The desktop is configured to be larger than the screen, so the screen shows a viewport onto the desktop. When you approach the edge of the screen, the viewport moves to show more of the desktop in the direction of mouse movement.

Post (or pastebin) your xorg.conf and the Xorg.0.log it produced. Then we can tell you how to fix that.

Oh, an ABI is an Application Binary Interface. Its the standard that an application uses to communicate between its various parts. All the parts normally have to use the same standard or they won't work together. When the standard is changed, you need to rebuild all of the application. Xorg does thell in its log if you have this issue - you don't
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aguettinger · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 84

Glad it worked.
As I mentioned in my last post, if you want to know more about how to configure mouse and keyboard via hal/evdev, then the sticky thread in the Desktop environment subforum is the best place to look at.

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-722498.html

I don't know about the chroot problem. I always used chroot from the install cd.
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idella4 · Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:28 am Post subject:

thanks neddy and andy. Read back at andy's entries and you'll see he took mine and modified it and pasted it. That's the xorg.conf, and an Xlog is http://dpaste.com/125275/ from yesterday just before the last fix, and the current http://dpaste.com/125677/
Strange, I was in suse for extraneous reasons, chroot into genny like I've been doing all week to work on her (remember gentoo has a broken chroot) and got no connectivity, just gone, which is what happened 18 months ago. Happily I booted in and she's healthy. The mysteries of suse, but that's another forum
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject:

idella4,

I need a selfconsistent xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as they are now, with no doubts and no chance of them not being a matching set.
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idella4 · Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:42 am Post subject:

neddy, yes ok.

xorg.conf

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject:

idella4,

Going through your Xorg.0.log line 89-90