Portage 2.2

arnvidr · l33t Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 629 Location: Oslo, Norway

When will this thing come out? I can understand wanting to fix a bunch of bugs before releasing it, but when you start calling it Release Candidates, you shouldn't be far off. I'm on rc59 now, and that feels quite ridiculous!

Anyway, this is a rant on version numbering, not on the programming

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AaronPPC · Guru Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 522 Location: Tucson, AZ

What is the record for release candidates anyway?

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desultory · Bodhisattva Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 9410

There are still several open bugs which need to be resolved before 2.2 goes stable, most related to handling sets.

V-Li · Retired Dev Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613

All important features have been backported to 2.1.7 anyway.

d2_racing · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject:

In fact, is there any new info on if we will use sets at all with portage 2.2, because right now, I install my box with the old fashion method even if I use portage 2.2-rc58.

V-Li · Retired Dev Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613

I would not count on it.

AllenJB · Veteran Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1285

For general use, I find sets to work brilliantly. I also think that now that world and system are explicitly sets, users will be able to make sense of them much more easily.

As well as being able to create my own sets, there's a whole bunch of "utility" sets such as @module-rebuild that just go towards making life that much easier (I know that for many of them utilities already exist, but you have to know about and install these before they are available while under portage 2.2 they're displayed under "--list-sets".

V-Li · Retired Dev Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613

I did not follow the discussion back then, but there is a general flaw in the current meaning of sets. A better solution has not come up yet.

asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 8936

Hmm, I've been increasingly using sets since about rc15 was around, it's a nice feature. Portage-2.2 imo is safe for use for some time now... under usual circumstances it would be ~arch already (even has been for a short time at the beginning).

John R. Graham · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject:

d2_racing · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject:

In fact, do you have any info ?

V-Li · Retired Dev Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613

There are problems with the rebuild target, that causes cyclic rebuild dependencies. It is a design flaw and cannot be resolved easily. So the 2.2 branch will probably be kicked as many things are just prototypes and not for the release.

aidanjt · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Portage 2.2

d2_racing · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject:

John R. Graham · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject:

V-Li · Retired Dev Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613

Don't ask me! I only overheard other people, and Zac Medico (main Portage developer) says that 2.2 contains too much experimental code...so he is in favour to ditch it entirely.

d2_racing · Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject:

When I see Zac on IRC, I'm gonna ask him more details about the experiment code and I will post the answer here.

gkmac · Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:07 am Post subject:

John R. Graham · Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:20 am Post subject:

Doesn't sound like the 2.2 branch will be masked before its successor is available.

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asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 8936

Well, hopefully not.

I remember there weren't any problems downgrading to 2.1 in the early days of 2.2. Certainly there will be some work to do depending on one's usage of sets.

V-Li · Retired Dev Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613

Apart from sets all features are available in the 2.1 series, so compatability is given as long as you don't use sets. Anyway, a sane migration/upgrade path will be provided.

gkmac · Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject:

warrens · Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject:

Dropping portage-2.2 would be a forced downgrade for me

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V-Li · Retired Dev Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613

Guys, Portage 2.2 will not disappear into nowhere right now! It will go away one day. But that day will contain a path to not loose all the things you started loving about sets.

d2_racing · Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:52 am Post subject:

In fact, Zac will do something for us