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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Microsoft submits some Linux Kernel patches Reply with quote

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/072009-microsoft-linux-source-code.html
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The code consists of four drivers that are part of a technology called Linux Device Driver for Virtualization. The drivers, once added to the Linux kernel, will provide the hooks for any distribution of Linux to run on Windows Server 2008 and its Hyper-V hypervisor technology. Microsoft will provide ongoing maintenance of the code.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. As long as they're abiding by the GPL, there's no real problem with it legally--and there's nothing wrong with kernel modules interacting with proprietary technology; we have plenty of them.

If someone else had submitted a patch to allow Linux to be virtualized under Hyper-V, would you be complaining?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems ok
They want linux to work in their VM so they provide the patches for it since they are in the best position to know how to get it working
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't complaining.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the tubes just shit itself.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a very good look at that code before patching the kernel... I trust MS as far as I can smell them...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So MS have in one fell swoop given a degree of recognition to both linux as an operating system and the GPL as a valid license?

I gotta say something I never imagined myself saying; kudos to microsoft.

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Have a very good look at that code before patching the kernel... I trust MS as far as I can smell them...
It would only ever be enabled on a kernel configured specifically to run as a guest on a windows host, I don't see much of a threat...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is mostly a pragmatic move and most people in Microsoft, sans some upper management, are not anti-GPL. Microsoft's hypervisor will be more marketable if it can host non-Microsoft OSes at reasonable speeds.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So MS have in one fell swoop given a degree of recognition to both linux as an operating system and the GPL as a valid license?

I gotta say something I never imagined myself saying; kudos to microsoft.

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Have a very good look at that code before patching the kernel... I trust MS as far as I can smell them...
It would only ever be enabled on a kernel configured specifically to run as a guest on a windows host, I don't see much of a threat...


Besides, I have a little confidence in the kernel team to filter out bullshit.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have a very good look at that code before patching the kernel... I trust MS as far as I can smell them...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My_World wrote:
Have a very good look at that code before patching the kernel... I trust MS as far as I can smell them...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So MS have in one fell swoop given a degree of recognition to both linux as an operating system and the GPL as a valid license?

I gotta say something I never imagined myself saying; kudos to microsoft.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a ploy from MS. They've hated F/OSS forever, and they're starting to see side effects of their actions. The PR department have put Ballmer in a comatose-like state for the time being so they can clean up their act. Once they have done that, Ballmer will be awaken and 'embrace, extend, extinguish' will be easier than ever if you sheep don't wake up and take action.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

microsoft doesn't want either of the other 2 virturalization software systems to succeed. once they are out of the way if the linux kernel accepts those patches they will do the old 'embrace, extend, extinguish' tactics they are so famous for.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So where are the horsemen?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So where are the horsemen?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THe trojan horse here is microsoft improving the value of its server software. Basically, install windows server on your systems and then run linux on top of it to do the actual serving.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drizek wrote:
THe trojan horse here is microsoft improving the value of its server software. Basically, install windows server on your systems and then run linux on top of it to do the actual serving.


Why? Running Linux in a virtual machine on top of Windows Server would be like racing a formula 1 car on a dirt road, during a hurricane.
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jdmulloy wrote:
drizek wrote:
THe trojan horse here is microsoft improving the value of its server software. Basically, install windows server on your systems and then run linux on top of it to do the actual serving.


Why? Running Linux in a virtual machine on top of Windows Server would be like racing a formula 1 car on a dirt road, during a hurricane.


Yes, but they will also be handing out free pens to the purchasing people.
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drizek wrote:
jdmulloy wrote:
drizek wrote:
THe trojan horse here is microsoft improving the value of its server software. Basically, install windows server on your systems and then run linux on top of it to do the actual serving.


Why? Running Linux in a virtual machine on top of Windows Server would be like racing a formula 1 car on a dirt road, during a hurricane.


Yes, but they will also be handing out free pens to the purchasing people.

More like free laptops.
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jho wrote:
Hopeless wrote:
So MS have in one fell swoop given a degree of recognition to both linux as an operating system and the GPL as a valid license?

I gotta say something I never imagined myself saying; kudos to microsoft.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice. Microsoft has released the Hyper-V drivers as GPLv2. I know was a hard step for Microsoft to take, since it means acknowledging GPL and respecting the Linux community. The releasing of the drivers is good news for users, developers, and in the end Microsoft as well. Like most GPL related actions, a lot of work was done behind the scenes to get the offending company into compliance.

This saga started when one of the user's on the Vyatta forum inquired about supporting Hyper-V network driver in the Vyatta kernel. A little googling found the necessary drivers, but on closer examination there was a problem. The driver had both open-source components which were under GPL, and statically linked to several binary parts. The GPL does not permit mixing of closed and open source parts, so this was an obvious violation of the license. Rather than creating noise, my goal was to resolve the problem, so I turned to Greg Kroah-Hartman. Since Novell has a (too) close association with Microsoft, my expectation was that Greg could prod the right people to get the issue resolved.

It took longer than expected, but finally Microsoft decided to do the right thing and release the drivers.

http://linux-network-plumber.blogspot.com/2009/07/congratulations-microsoft.html
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