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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: .stm and server side includes Reply with quote

If a site uses .stm for SSI does that mean they are running apache or can it be used in IIS and other web servers?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: .stm and server side includes Reply with quote

cokehabit wrote:
If a site uses .stm for SSI does that mean they are running apache or can it be used in IIS and other web servers?

File extension do not necessarily mean the file contains SSI, apache needs http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.1/mod/mod_include.html to do SSI, but I doubt it will work ....
How does the source (content of file) look like?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: .stm and server side includes Reply with quote

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cokehabit wrote:
If a site uses .stm for SSI does that mean they are running apache or can it be used in IIS and other web servers?

File extension do not necessarily mean the file contains SSI, apache needs http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.1/mod/mod_include.html to do SSI, but I doubt it will work ....
How does the source (content of file) look like?
it's a web page with a .stm extention. I read that .stm is because it uses SSI.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: .stm and server side includes Reply with quote

cokehabit wrote:
erm67 wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
If a site uses .stm for SSI does that mean they are running apache or can it be used in IIS and other web servers?

File extension do not necessarily mean the file contains SSI, apache needs http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.1/mod/mod_include.html to do SSI, but I doubt it will work ....
How does the source (content of file) look like?
it's a web page with a .stm extention. I read that .stm is because it uses SSI.

You can assign extensions to whatever you want on a web server, so it is not 100% sure it is, and SSI might just be the last piece in a complex CMS system.
To know what it is really you need the source, how it appears on the disk before the SSI (or whatever) is interpreted by the web server. If you can only read the resulting html source in firefox , it might be impossible to know what system generated it.
Is it a page from www.bbc.co.uk?
If so they use movable types CMS that relies on standard SSI.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: .stm and server side includes Reply with quote

erm67 wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
erm67 wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
If a site uses .stm for SSI does that mean they are running apache or can it be used in IIS and other web servers?

File extension do not necessarily mean the file contains SSI, apache needs http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.1/mod/mod_include.html to do SSI, but I doubt it will work ....
How does the source (content of file) look like?
it's a web page with a .stm extention. I read that .stm is because it uses SSI.

You can assign extensions to whatever you want on a web server, so it is not 100% sure it is, and SSI might just be the last piece in a complex CMS system.
To know what it is really you need the source, how it appears on the disk before the SSI (or whatever) is interpreted by the web server. If you can only read the resulting html source in firefox , it might be impossible to know what system generated it.
Is it a page from www.bbc.co.uk?
If so they use movable types CMS that relies on standard SSI.
are you sure they use moveabletype?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: .stm and server side includes Reply with quote

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are you sure they use moveabletype?

Of course not, but it is possible. From the outside it is impossible to know.
http://www.krsaborio.net/research/2000s/05/0603.htm

google for "bbc cms movable type" you will get a lot of results.

For the blogs they use movable types, for the news Signiant DMDMS http://www.signiant.com/0/Company/News/BBC
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: .stm and server side includes Reply with quote

erm67 wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
are you sure they use moveabletype?

Of course not, but it is possible. From the outside it is impossible to know.
http://www.krsaborio.net/research/2000s/05/0603.htm

google for "bbc cms movable type" you will get a lot of results.

For the blogs they use movable types, for the news Signiant DMDMS http://www.signiant.com/0/Company/News/BBC
actually, from researching up a bit I can't see anything about moveable type. What I seem to be reading is that it is all SSI :?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: .stm and server side includes Reply with quote

cokehabit wrote:
erm67 wrote:
cokehabit wrote:
are you sure they use moveabletype?

Of course not, but it is possible. From the outside it is impossible to know.
http://www.krsaborio.net/research/2000s/05/0603.htm

google for "bbc cms movable type" you will get a lot of results.

For the blogs they use movable types, for the news Signiant DMDMS http://www.signiant.com/0/Company/News/BBC
actually, from researching up a bit I can't see anything about moveable type. What I seem to be reading is that it is all SSI :?

They use a lot of cms for different versions, BBC Wales and BBC World Service uses drupal http://drupal.org/node/88190

SSI can't do very much on its own, it is probably used to put together the pages produced by the variuos CMS. It is a big organization, its infrastructure is probably very complex.
The various CMS are the backends and and the frontend uses SSI, instead of the usual mod_proxy to put all content together, I am speculating but it is possible.
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