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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Dell Dimension 2350, 1 gig very slow [solved - kinda] Reply with quote

i am using fluxbox, trying everything very minimal, but i think everything is way slower than it should be. i know its a weaker processor, but i even chromium is choppy, its hard to scroll pages, programs like openoffice are a nightmare to run and scroll through. what do you guys think?
Code:
 
MW20-PPL2106U01 bobby # emerge --info
Portage 2.1.6.13 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.3.4, glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2, 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r6-i686-Intel-R-_Pentium-R-_4_CPU_2.50GHz-with-gentoo-1.12.13
Timestamp of tree: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:30:01 +0000
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
app-shells/bash:     4.0_p28
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.9-r1
dev-lang/python:     2.6.2-r1
dev-util/ccache:     2.4-r7
dev-util/cmake:      2.6.4
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.13
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.6-r2
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.63-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool:   2.2.6a
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.27-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"       
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/config /var/lib/hsqldb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="ccache distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch parralel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"               
MAKEOPTS="-j2"                 
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" 
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"         
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"       
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"         
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X a52 aac acl acpi alsa berkdb bluetooth branding bzip2 cairo cdr cli consolekit cracklib crypt cups dbus dri dts dvd dvdr eds emboss encode evo fam firefox flac fortran gdbm gif gpm gstreamer gtk hal iconv ipv6 jpeg ldap libnotify mad mikmod modules mp3 mp4 mpeg mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl png ppds pppd python qt3support qt4 quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl startup-notification svg sysfs tcpd thunar tiff truetype unicode usb vorbis win32codecs x264 x86 xml xorg xulrunner xv xvid zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="intel"
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

Code:
 MW20-PPL2106U01 bobby # lspci   
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:04.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 6c)
01:09.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)

Code:
 MW20-PPL2106U01 bobby # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 15
model           : 2
model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.50GHz
stepping        : 7
cpu MHz         : 2492.430
cache size      : 512 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 2
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up pebs bts cid
bogomips        : 4984.86
clflush size    : 64
power management:

Code:
 MW20-PPL2106U01 bobby # cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:        1032136 kB
MemFree:          475808 kB
Buffers:           30320 kB
Cached:           333772 kB
SwapCached:            0 kB
Active:           353228 kB
Inactive:         162264 kB
Active(anon):     158968 kB
Inactive(anon):        0 kB
Active(file):     194260 kB
Inactive(file):   162264 kB
Unevictable:           0 kB
Mlocked:               0 kB
HighTotal:        138184 kB
HighFree:            252 kB
LowTotal:         893952 kB
LowFree:          475556 kB
SwapTotal:       2104504 kB
SwapFree:        2104504 kB
Dirty:                92 kB
Writeback:             0 kB
AnonPages:        151404 kB
Mapped:            50652 kB
Slab:              13488 kB
SReclaimable:       9176 kB
SUnreclaim:         4312 kB
PageTables:         1312 kB
NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
Bounce:                0 kB
WritebackTmp:          0 kB
CommitLimit:     2620572 kB
Committed_AS:     380812 kB
VmallocTotal:     122880 kB
VmallocUsed:      105292 kB
VmallocChunk:      16312 kB
HugePages_Total:       0
HugePages_Free:        0
HugePages_Rsvd:        0
HugePages_Surp:        0
Hugepagesize:       4096 kB
DirectMap4k:       40952 kB
DirectMap4M:      868352 kB


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did you set up X11? Is acceleration enabled?

When you run 'top' is it indicating there's something running at the time? Zombie process? Interrupt galore?

How is your disk speeds? Is it getting choked up while trying to read disk from a slowly operating disk due to DMA off?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what i see is that X is eating up to 90% of cpu when i scroll pages. i tested whether my 3D acceleration is enabled and it said yes:
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 bobby@MW20-PPL2106U01 ~ $ glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: Yes
bobby@MW20-PPL2106U01 ~ $ glxgears
685 frames in 5.0 seconds = 136.975 FPS
659 frames in 5.0 seconds = 131.770 FPS
683 frames in 5.0 seconds = 136.534 FPS
681 frames in 5.0 seconds = 136.170 FPS
640 frames in 5.0 seconds = 127.877 FPS


i am thinking it is the something with the 3D because i tried playing some really non-demanding game. the linux version of Mario Bros, i forget the name and it was extremely slow and choppy. Also scrolling pages is choppy.

here is my xorg.conf. how can i troubleshoot this further?
Code:
 
 GNU nano 2.1.10                   File: /etc/X11/xorg.conf                                   Modified 

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Simple Layout"
Screen "Screen1"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dri"
Load "glx"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "Auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "NEC"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Brookdale-G"
Driver "intel"
#BusID: "PCI:0:2:0"
#Option "backingstore" "true"
#Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Brookdale-G"
Monitor "NEC"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
Option "RENDER" "Enable"
EndSection

Section "dri"
Mode 0666
EndSection
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a problem with browsers, scrolling, trying to watch movies. a better video card solved it for me.
i had plenty of cpu and memory. just needed more graphic power.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

any other help besides "buy a video card"?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadly... i bought a video card... seems problem is solved.
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