View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
bobdva Apprentice
Joined: 25 Nov 2003 Posts: 207 Location: Moscow
|
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
ronmon wrote: | I don't think it reads the ~/.local directory any more. |
use ~/.local/share/applications/ for it
ronmon wrote: | To change the order of the menu entries I had to edit /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu |
use ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu
Xfce Wiki:Customize the Xfce menu |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ronmon Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Posts: 1043 Location: Key West, FL
|
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yeah, I was lazy and truncated the ~/.local directory. ~/.local/share/applications is where my .desktop files are.
Thanks for the wiki link. I'll get around to localizing and tweaking my menu files pretty soon, but it sure was a lot easier with the old editor. _________________ Ask Questions the Smart Way - by ESR |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bobdva Apprentice
Joined: 25 Nov 2003 Posts: 207 Location: Moscow
|
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
ronmon wrote: | I'll get around to localizing and tweaking my menu files pretty soon, but it sure was a lot easier with the old editor. |
Sure, editor is much accommodative neither hand edit |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ronmon Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Posts: 1043 Location: Key West, FL
|
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
But being gentoo users we are quite used to editing config files by hand, aren't we? Just look at the date I joined the forums. I was a Slackware package maintainer several years before that. Maybe I just got spoiled with xfce4, although my all-time favourite wm was sawfish on pre-2.0 Gnome. Alt-middle-click to set a persistent state for the selected application window was the nuts. Havoc Pennington killed that project when he dumbed it down to crap with Gnome-2.0 and forced metacity on everyone. I have to use devilspie to replicate some of the old sawfish functions. At least I can with xfce/compiz/emerald, which I can't with Gnome.
Enough of the gripes. The wiki link that bob posted has all the info I needed and I tweaked my menu well enough for now. I'll dig deeper when I get the chance. _________________ Ask Questions the Smart Way - by ESR |
|
Back to top |
|
|
dylix Apprentice
Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 261 Location: Atlanta
|
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
ronmon wrote: | Code: |
ronmon@maxx $ xfce4-mouse-settings
(xfce4-mouse-settings:19755): xfce4-mouse-settings-CRITICAL **: XI is not present or too old.
|
Apparently, I'm not the only one with the same issue.
|
yea thats why i was asking to see if it was the same error i get.. _________________
https://dylix.org/
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
ronmon Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Posts: 1043 Location: Key West, FL
|
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Heh, didn't notice that was you. Just trying to keep everything in the same thread. _________________ Ask Questions the Smart Way - by ESR |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pappy_mcfae Watchman
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 5999 Location: Pomona, California.
|
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:37 am Post subject: |
|
|
Amen to that! I tried KDE-4, and I couldn't get it off my computer fast enough. And while I think about giving KDE-4.2x a try, I still read far too many tales of woe about KDE-4x to have that thought go farther than, "yeah, right."
Blessed be!
Pappy _________________ This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mickael Advocate
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 2387 Location: ~Belfort! - France - EU
|
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
Hi, I've got a question about notification-deamon-xfce :
There is a strange dependency fot this ebuild :
Quote: | RDEPEND=">=dev-libs/glib-2.6
>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6
x11-libs/libnotify
>=xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.3.90
>=xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.3.90
[b]xfce? ( >=xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.2 )[/b]
>=x11-libs/libsexy-0.1.3
dev-libs/dbus-glib"
|
The use flag xfce allows the xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.2 dependency, but this package induced a conflict with xfce4.6 :
Code: | [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.4.3 USE="-debug" 601 kB
[ebuild R ] x11-misc/notification-daemon-xfce-0.3.7 USE="xfce* -debug" 0 kB
[blocks B ] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager ("xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager" is blocking xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.6.0) |
Does the xfce flag and xfce-mcs-manager are really needed?
I don't understand why the xfce use fag is necessary as the notification-deamon-xfce have been written for xfce... moreover, the README of this package never speaks about this dependency :
Quote: | Notification-daemon-xfce is a port of Gnome's notification-daemon
for the Xfce desktop. It depends on the following packages:
* gtk >= 2.6.0
* libxfce4util >= 4.3.90
* libxfcegui4 >= 4.3.90
* dbus >= 0.36
* libsexy >= 0.1.3
The Xfce version also uses xfce4-dev-tools for creating the make files.
|
PS : notification-daemon-xfce works very well without XFCE flag and xfce-mcs-manager (with claws-mail and claws-mail-notification for exemple) _________________ À LIRE : COMMENT POSTER ET OBTENIR DE L'AIDE ?
Qui suis-je ? Bon j'ai relu, comme d'habitude, je suis bon a rien le vendredi
Qui suis-je ? Je ne serai jamais modo
Last edited by Mickael on Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:13 pm; edited 2 times in total |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ronmon Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Posts: 1043 Location: Key West, FL
|
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
|
|
In 4.6.0 xfce-mcs-manager and xfce-mcs-plugins are replaced by xfce4-settings. That package pulls in x11-libs/libnotify if the 'libnotify' USE flag is set. From the RDEPEND section of xfce4-settings-4.6.0.ebuild:
Code: |
!xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager
!xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins
libnotify? ( x11-libs/libnotify )
|
_________________ Ask Questions the Smart Way - by ESR |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mickael Advocate
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 2387 Location: ~Belfort! - France - EU
|
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
ronmon wrote: | In 4.6.0 xfce-mcs-manager and xfce-mcs-plugins are replaced by xfce4-settings. That package pulls in x11-libs/libnotify if the 'libnotify' USE flag is set. From the RDEPEND section of xfce4-settings-4.6.0.ebuild:
Code: |
!xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager
!xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins
libnotify? ( x11-libs/libnotify )
|
|
thanks! _________________ À LIRE : COMMENT POSTER ET OBTENIR DE L'AIDE ?
Qui suis-je ? Bon j'ai relu, comme d'habitude, je suis bon a rien le vendredi
Qui suis-je ? Je ne serai jamais modo |
|
Back to top |
|
|
d2_racing Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 13047 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
|
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
So you have removed these packages :
Code: |
# emerge -Cv xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins
|
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mickael Advocate
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 2387 Location: ~Belfort! - France - EU
|
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
d2_racing wrote: | So you have removed these packages :
Code: |
# emerge -Cv xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins
|
|
Sure, and removed the xfce flag for notification-daemon-xfce which is not necessary with XFCE4.6; without that, notification-deamon continues to ask these packages.---> maybe we must write a bump version of notification-deamon-xfce for xfce-4.6 (just remove the flag and the dependency inside the ebuild) _________________ À LIRE : COMMENT POSTER ET OBTENIR DE L'AIDE ?
Qui suis-je ? Bon j'ai relu, comme d'habitude, je suis bon a rien le vendredi
Qui suis-je ? Je ne serai jamais modo |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pappy_mcfae Watchman
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 5999 Location: Pomona, California.
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
I've been rocking XFCE-4.6, and I have to say, it's really amazing! I have decided that it's a better setup than KDE-3.5.10...almost. and it's WORLDS above KDE-4.x, even as is. Kudos to the XFCE folks for not dropping a KDE-4.x style turd on us.
I am in the process of whipping up a Franken-desktop with XCFE-4.6.x as the base, and using all my favorite KDE-3.5.x apps. I've gotten almost all the kinks ironed out, except for a few which I am not so sure can be fixed without messing up the lighter weight that XFCE carries.
The one I really want to fix is to get konqueror to start Terminal (the XFCE terminal) instead of konsole. I've never liked konsole, and its "transparency" sucks ditch water under XFCE. Konsole will work in an opaque mode, but frankly, I like Terminal much better. (hint hint)
Oh, and apparently emerge -av x11-themes/tango-icon-theme x11-themes/tango-icon-theme-extras fixes the XFCE-4.6.x long-gone icon problem. Woohoo!
Blessed be!
Pappy _________________ This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
d2_racing Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 13047 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
You can even install the gnome icones too |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ronmon Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Posts: 1043 Location: Key West, FL
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I ran 4.6.0 for a while with stable xorg-server-1.3.0.0, but now xfce4-settings-4.6.0 wants to pull in the '~arch' xorg-server-1.5.3.
Normally I'd go ahead and upgrade X, but until I can figure out how to make media keys work on it I'm going to wait. For now I have reluctantly reverted xfce.
Any ideas? _________________ Ask Questions the Smart Way - by ESR |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pappy_mcfae Watchman
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 5999 Location: Pomona, California.
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
d2_racing wrote: | You can even install the gnome icones too |
Yeah, it's the first time I've actively worked with anything Gnome. Nice icons. hehehe
Blessed be!
Pappy _________________ This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
slangdaddy n00b
Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 73 Location: Braunschweig
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Hi,
is anyone using xfce 4.6 and kopete + korganizer (system tray) from kde 4.2 ?
When I logout from xfce, kopete crashes sometimes. Plus, the logout needs quite some time to progress.
When I try to change the restart style of korgac (korganizer reminder) to, say "if running", and click "save session", its restart style gets reset to never.
All these problems did not occur in xfce 4.4 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
justinkb Apprentice
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 161
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
not a support question at all, but how are you guys experiencing xfce 4.6? any ex-gnome 2.24 users that switched to it and stayed? if so, why, if not, why not? don't really care about kde 4 users, since i can understand anyone moving away from that piece of crap (what an incredibly horribly failed project that seems to be, even with 4.2). i know i could just emerge it and try it, but i'd like to hear some opinions first thanks. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
slangdaddy n00b
Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 73 Location: Braunschweig
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
@justinkb:
I've been using xfce since version 4.2 and never had any real problems, except for those in my last post.
For me, xfce (any version) is incredibly stable and fast (compared to kde3/4, I never used gnome). I recommend to try 4.4 as the changes to 4.6 aren't that noticeable. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
MageSlayer Apprentice
Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 252 Location: Ukraine
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Guys, does anybody experience problems with 4.6.0?
Now when I upgraded from 4.5.99, I cannot even login.
When starting with startxfce4 session just hangs because xfdesktop processes seems to start in infinite loop. At last X server forbids connect due to max client number.
I've already tried to uninstall all xfce-base/*, xfce-extra/* packages and emerge them again, but nothing helps.
I've created https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263271
Some help needed badly. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
slangdaddy n00b
Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 73 Location: Braunschweig
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
@MageSlayer:
Did you try a clean xfce configuration?
Backup and then delete <user>/.config/xfce4 (and maybe xfce4-session) and start xfce. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
MageSlayer Apprentice
Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 252 Location: Ukraine
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yes, I've moved ~/.config/xfce4 and xfce4-session as well to backup directory and restarted X.
No difference. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
s0ulslack Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 134 Location: Idaho
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
There are actually a few things in ~/.cache/ you might want to mv to .old too |
|
Back to top |
|
|
6d696b65 n00b
Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 24
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
can anyone post their package.keywords so i can update to 4.6? thanks.
p.s. i always wondered if there was a better way to unmask a whole bunch of packages like this...is there? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ronmon Veteran
Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Posts: 1043 Location: Key West, FL
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Here you go:
Code: |
xfce-base/xfce4-settings
xfce-base/libxfce4menu
xfce-base/xfconf
media-video/xfmedia
dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools
dev-libs/dbh
xfce-base/xfce4
xfce-extra/thunar-archive
xfce-extra/thunar-media-tags
xfce-extra/thunar-volman
app-arch/xarchiver
xfce-extra/xfce4-verve
xfce-extra/xfce4-battery
xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman
xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph
xfce-extra/xfce4-cpu-freq
xfce-extra/xfce4-datetime
xfce-extra/xfce4-dict
xfce-extra/xfce4-diskperf
xfce-extra/xfce4-fsguard
xfce-extra/xfce4-genmon
xfce-extra/xfce4-mailwatch
xfce-extra/xfce4-mount
xfce-extra/xfce4-netload
xfce-extra/xfce4-notes
xfce-extra/xfce4-quicklauncher
xfce-extra/xfce4-screenshooter
#xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors
xfce-extra/xfce4-smartbookmark
xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload
xfce-extra/xfce4-taskmanager
xfce-extra/xfce4-weather
xfce-extra/xfce4-xfapplet
xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb
xfce-extra/xfce4-wavelan
xfce-extra/xfce4-timer
xfce-base/libxfce4util
xfce-base/libxfce4mcs
xfce-base/libxfcegui4
xfce-base/xfce4-panel
xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager
xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer
net-print/xfprint
xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins
x11-themes/xfce4-icon-theme
app-editors/mousepad
xfce-extra/exo
x11-terms/terminal
app-office/orage
xfce-base/thunar
xfce-base/xfdesktop
xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder
xfce-base/xfce-utils
xfce-base/xfwm4
x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce
xfce-base/xfce4-session
x11-themes/xfwm4-themes
xfce-base/xfce4
|
I break mine up into separate files in the /etc/portage/package.keywords/ directory. Then you can just move that file out of the way if you want to revert to stable. _________________ Ask Questions the Smart Way - by ESR |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|