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 Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: Program like wine but for ms-dos programs |
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Hi all,
For a long while I've been successfully running Mplus (www.statmodel.com) under wine. Unfortunately, for some odd reason, the latest version of the program does not run under wine. I was wondering whether there were any alternatives out there that might let me run the program. I do not want to run it under a virtual machine, namely as this would defeat the purpose of being able to run it remotely via the shell.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: |
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I just tried it and it won't run the program. It claims it's not a dos program.
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According to therir website it indeed isn't a DOS program
| Quote: | System Requirements
Microsoft Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP/Vista
(see below for information about Mplus on Mac OS X)
At least 8 MB of RAM
At least 20 MB of hard disk space |
I'm afraid you'll have to use a windows emulator, among which the others than Wine are paid (Cross-over Office, Cedega). Maybe there are others, but they'll certainly not be as good as Wine.
Maybe you could try VirtualBox if you have a Windows licence? It seems to me that this program is fairly important to anyone who use it, so maybe it's worth trying... |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:46 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Tadeas"]According to therir website it indeed isn't a DOS program
| Quote: | System Requirements
Microsoft Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP/Vista
(see below for information about Mplus on Mac OS X)
At least 8 MB of RAM
At least 20 MB of hard disk space |
No, I imagine it's not, though it runs on the XP 'command line' or the older versions ran under wine.
| Quote: | | I'm afraid you'll have to use a windows emulator, among which the others than Wine are paid (Cross-over Office, Cedega). Maybe there are others, but they'll certainly not be as good as Wine. |
Yeah, I tried to see whether it worked for crossover office, though had little luck getting it to even run. It just complicated matters more than necessary I guess.
| Quote: | | Maybe you could try VirtualBox if you have a Windows licence? It seems to me that this program is fairly important to anyone who use it, so maybe it's worth trying... |
That would work, but it would defeat the purpose, i.e., I just want to run it under linux so that I can have it merrily go in the background via screen or so that I can get it to run by ssh'ing into my box, etc. Running it under VM defeats both purposes.
Thanks anyway.
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Well, would it be possible to run the VirtualBox image headless, install your program as well as an SSH server and connect to it remotely that way?
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evoweiss
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Hi,
| PraetorZero wrote: | | Well, would it be possible to run the VirtualBox image headless, install your program as well as an SSH server and connect to it remotely that way? |
I didn't realize that was an option made available. I will give this a go in the near future and report back on how it went. Thanks for the pointer!
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| First of all you should file a bug or at least start a topic in wine's forum about this regression. If it worken then it might be easily (therefore quickly) fixable. |
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| szczerb wrote: | | First of all you should file a bug or at least start a topic in wine's forum about this regression. If it worken then it might be easily (therefore quickly) fixable. |
I've already done that; sorry I wasn't more clear about it. The problem is that it's a closed source software package (though it shouldn't be!), so it's likely hard for developers to work out what the incompatibility is all about.
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I've only ever used Wine once, to run uTorrent, so forgive me if this suggestion is naive, but have you tried changing the Windows-version being emulated via 'winecfg'? Maybe your updated app needs Vista now..? 
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| taipan67 wrote: | | I've only ever used Wine once, to run uTorrent, so forgive me if this suggestion is naive, but have you tried changing the Windows-version being emulated via 'winecfg'? Maybe your updated app needs Vista now..? |
I'll give that a shot, but don't hold out much hope as the app runs fine under XP on my windows box at work. However, it might make a difference.
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| taipan67 wrote: | | I've only ever used Wine once, to run uTorrent, so forgive me if this suggestion is naive, but have you tried changing the Windows-version being emulated via 'winecfg'? Maybe your updated app needs Vista now..? |
Nope, didn't work... I used and tried all the possibly relevant versions.
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Maybe you just to install some packages. The popular ones are available through winetricks. A new version is always here.
Paste here the output when you try to run the program. Maybe will notice something pointing towards a missing package.[/url] |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| szczerb wrote: | Maybe you just to install some packages. The popular ones are available through winetricks. A new version is always here.
Paste here the output when you try to run the program. Maybe will notice something pointing towards a missing package. |
I'll try that at some point, though tomorrow is out. Anyway, all I get when I try to run the software is the following:
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Mplus VERSION 5.2
MUTHEN & MUTHEN
Running input file 'ex3.1.inp'...
forrtl: severe (157): Program Exception - access violation
Image PC Routine Line Source
Mplus.exe 012B9F3F Unknown Unknown Unknown
Mplus.exe 012933EB Unknown Unknown Unknown
Mplus.exe 00419CBB Unknown Unknown Unknown
Mplus.exe 01171E60 Unknown Unknown Unknown
Mplus.exe 01347875 Unknown Unknown Unknown
Mplus.exe 01327D09 Unknown Unknown Unknown
KERNEL32.dll 7EE38349 Unknown Unknown Unknown
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I have some debugging output, too, though it's rather long.
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| Tadeas wrote: | According to therir website it indeed isn't a DOS program
| Quote: | System Requirements
Microsoft Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP/Vista
(see below for information about Mplus on Mac OS X)
At least 8 MB of RAM
At least 20 MB of hard disk space |
I'm afraid you'll have to use a windows emulator, among which the others than Wine are paid (Cross-over Office, Cedega). Maybe there are others, but they'll certainly not be as good as Wine.
Maybe you could try VirtualBox if you have a Windows licence? It seems to me that this program is fairly important to anyone who use it, so maybe it's worth trying... |
It lists Win95 and Win98 support, so there's a remote chance you'll be able to get it running under DOSBox. You'll need to find an appropriate set of install disks, and possibly sacrifice a chicken or two. |
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I meant the output from the terminal in which you start that program via wine, so it should start with a line similar to: | Code: | | user@machine current_dir $ wine executable_name |
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| szczerb wrote: | I meant the output from the terminal in which you start that program via wine, so it should start with a line similar to: | Code: | | user@machine current_dir $ wine executable_name |
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That's what I posted or am I missing something obvious?.
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Hi all,
Winetricks didn't seem to, ahem, do the trick. As such, I will torment you all with a posting of what wine's debugger outputted. Hopefully this will give somebody insight.
Best,
Alex
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WineDbg starting on pid 0017
0x7ee71a22: movl %esi,0x0(%esp)
Wine-dbg>cont
First chance exception: page fault on write access to 0x7ee4283c in
32-bit code (0x012b9f3f).
Register dump:
CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
EIP:012b9f3f ESP:04359478 EBP:043594b8 EFLAGS:00210246( - 00
-RIZP1)
EAX:7ee4283c EBX:04359544 ECX:043599b0 EDX:8be58955
ESI:044f4a98 EDI:044f4a98
Stack dump:
0x04359478: b7e5cbcb 043594ec 044f4c08 7ee4283c
0x04359488: 00000000 00000000 00003637 043599b0
0x04359498: 000007d8 00000000 00000000 043599b0
0x043594a8: 00000000 00000000 043594e0 044f4a98
0x043594b8: 04359554 012933eb fffffffb 04359544
0x043594c8: 043599b0 00000004 04359510 00000040
Backtrace:
=>1 0x012b9f3f in mplus (+0xeb9f3f) (0x043594b8)
2 0x012933eb in mplus (+0xe933eb) (0x04359554)
3 0x00419cbb in mplus (+0x19cbb) (0x04359af8)
4 0x01171e60 in mplus (+0xd71e60) (0x043cfe78)
5 0x01347875 in mplus (+0xf47875) (0x043cfeb8)
6 0x01327d09 in mplus (+0xf27d09) (0x043cff08)
7 0x7ee71a27 in kernel32 (+0x51a27) (0x043cffe8)
8 0xb7ea7c03 wine_switch_to_stack+0x17() in libwine.so.1 (0x00000000)
0x012b9f3f: movl %edi,0x0(%eax)
Wine-dbg>bt all
0xffffe422: jmp 0xffffe417
Backtracing for thread 0015 in process 000c
(c:\windows\system32\services.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x7e98a868)
2 0x7efc27f3 NTDLL_wait_for_multiple_objects+0x1e6() in ntdll
(0x7e98a978)
3 0x7efc2aa6 NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x62() in ntdll (0x7e98a9a8)
4 0x7efc2af0 NtWaitForSingleObject+0x3c() in ntdll (0x7e98a9c8)
5 0x7efc761f in ntdll (+0x5761f) (0x7e98aa18)
6 0x7efc457e call_thread_entry_point+0xe() in ntdll (0x7e98aa28)
7 0x7efc4bce in ntdll (+0x54bce) (0x7e98aac8)
8 0x7efc4ddd in ntdll (+0x54ddd) (0x7e98b3b8)
9 0xb7e0117b start_thread+0xcb() in libpthread.so.0 (0x7e98b4b8)
10 0xb7d8d09e __clone+0x5e() in libc.so.6 (0x00000000)
Backtracing for thread 0013 in process 000c
(c:\windows\system32\services.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x7ea9b868)
2 0x7efc27f3 NTDLL_wait_for_multiple_objects+0x1e6() in ntdll
(0x7ea9b978)
3 0x7efc2aa6 NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x62() in ntdll (0x7ea9b9a8)
4 0x7efc2af0 NtWaitForSingleObject+0x3c() in ntdll (0x7ea9b9c8)
5 0x7efc761f in ntdll (+0x5761f) (0x7ea9ba18)
6 0x7efc457e call_thread_entry_point+0xe() in ntdll (0x7ea9ba28)
7 0x7efc4bce in ntdll (+0x54bce) (0x7ea9bac8)
8 0x7efc4ddd in ntdll (+0x54ddd) (0x7ea9c3b8)
9 0xb7e0117b start_thread+0xcb() in libpthread.so.0 (0x7ea9c4b8)
10 0xb7d8d09e __clone+0x5e() in libc.so.6 (0x00000000)
Backtracing for thread 0012 in process 000c
(c:\windows\system32\services.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x7ebac868)
2 0x7ee4517f ReadFile+0x1f9() in kernel32 (0x7ebac8b8)
3 0x7ed9004d in rpcrt4 (+0x4004d) (0x7ebac8f8)
4 0x7ed8a177 RPCRT4_receive_fragment+0x4e() in rpcrt4 (0x7ebac948)
5 0x7ed8a475 RPCRT4_ReceiveWithAuth+0x69() in rpcrt4 (0x7ebac9b8)
6 0x7ed8ab7c RPCRT4_Receive+0x3b() in rpcrt4 (0x7ebac9d8)
7 0x7ed8bd25 in rpcrt4 (+0x3bd25) (0x7ebaca18)
8 0x7efc457e call_thread_entry_point+0xe() in ntdll (0x7ebaca28)
9 0x7efc4bce in ntdll (+0x54bce) (0x7ebacac8)
10 0x7efc4ddd in ntdll (+0x54ddd) (0x7ebad3b8)
11 0xb7e0117b start_thread+0xcb() in libpthread.so.0 (0x7ebad4b8)
12 0xb7d8d09e __clone+0x5e() in libc.so.6 (0x00000000)
Backtracing for thread 000e in process 000c
(c:\windows\system32\services.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x7ecbd708)
2 0x7efc27f3 NTDLL_wait_for_multiple_objects+0x1e6() in ntdll
(0x7ecbd818)
3 0x7efc2aa6 NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x62() in ntdll (0x7ecbd848)
4 0x7ee84b29 WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x12c() in kernel32 (0x7ecbd998)
5 0x7ed909c9 in rpcrt4 (+0x409c9) (0x7ecbd9d8)
6 0x7ed8b8b4 in rpcrt4 (+0x3b8b4) (0x7ecbda18)
7 0x7efc457e call_thread_entry_point+0xe() in ntdll (0x7ecbda28)
8 0x7efc4bce in ntdll (+0x54bce) (0x7ecbdac8)
9 0x7efc4ddd in ntdll (+0x54ddd) (0x7ecbe3b8)
10 0xb7e0117b start_thread+0xcb() in libpthread.so.0 (0x7ecbe4b8)
11 0xb7d8d09e __clone+0x5e() in libc.so.6 (0x00000000)
Backtracing for thread 000d in process 000c
(c:\windows\system32\services.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x0033f978)
2 0x7efc27f3 NTDLL_wait_for_multiple_objects+0x1e6() in ntdll
(0x0033fa88)
3 0x7efc2aa6 NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x62() in ntdll (0x0033fab8)
4 0x7ee84b29 WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x12c() in kernel32 (0x0033fc08)
5 0x7ee84ca7 WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x3b() in kernel32 (0x0033fc28)
6 0x7edbd1fd RPC_MainLoop+0x58() in services (0x0033fc58)
7 0x7edc0a00 main+0x8ae() in services (0x0033fed8)
8 0x7edc76ad in services (+0x176ad) (0x0033ff08)
9 0x7ee71a27 in kernel32 (+0x51a27) (0x0033ffe8)
10 0xb7e28c03 wine_switch_to_stack+0x17() in libwine.so.1 (0x00000000)
0xffffe422: jmp 0xffffe417
Backtracing for thread 0016 in process 000f
(c:\windows\system32\winedevice.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe424 (0x7ea17858)
2 0x7ea4375f in libdbus-1.so.3 (+0x2a75f) (0x7ea178a0)
3 0x00000001 (0x00000015)
4 0x00000000 (0x00000000)
Backtracing for thread 0014 in process 000f
(c:\windows\system32\winedevice.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x7eb872b8)
2 0x7efc27f3 NTDLL_wait_for_multiple_objects+0x1e6() in ntdll
(0x7eb873c8)
3 0x7efc2aa6 NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x62() in ntdll (0x7eb873f8)
4 0x7ee84b29 WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x12c() in kernel32 (0x7eb87548)
5 0x7ee84c62 WaitForMultipleObjects+0x3a() in kernel32 (0x7eb87568)
6 0x7ed50435 wine_ntoskrnl_main_loop+0x4f9() in ntoskrnl (0x7eb876f8)
7 0x7edd03c2 in winedevice (+0x103c2) (0x7eb879c8)
8 0x7eda581b in advapi32 (+0x2581b) (0x7eb87a18)
9 0x7efc457e call_thread_entry_point+0xe() in ntdll (0x7eb87a28)
10 0x7efc4bce in ntdll (+0x54bce) (0x7eb87ac8)
11 0x7efc4ddd in ntdll (+0x54ddd) (0x7eb883b8)
12 0xb7e8817b start_thread+0xcb() in libpthread.so.0 (0x7eb884b8)
13 0xb7e1409e __clone+0x5e() in libc.so.6 (0x00000000)
Backtracing for thread 0011 in process 000f
(c:\windows\system32\winedevice.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x7ed2e948)
2 0x7ee4517f ReadFile+0x1f9() in kernel32 (0x7ed2e998)
3 0x7eda7d65 in advapi32 (+0x27d65) (0x7ed2ea18)
4 0x7efc457e call_thread_entry_point+0xe() in ntdll (0x7ed2ea28)
5 0x7efc4bce in ntdll (+0x54bce) (0x7ed2eac8)
6 0x7efc4ddd in ntdll (+0x54ddd) (0x7ed2f3b8)
7 0xb7e8817b start_thread+0xcb() in libpthread.so.0 (0x7ed2f4b8)
8 0xb7e1409e __clone+0x5e() in libc.so.6 (0x00000000)
Backtracing for thread 0010 in process 000f
(c:\windows\system32\winedevice.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x0033f998)
2 0x7efc27f3 NTDLL_wait_for_multiple_objects+0x1e6() in ntdll
(0x0033faa8)
3 0x7efc2aa6 NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x62() in ntdll (0x0033fad8)
4 0x7ee84b29 WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x12c() in kernel32 (0x0033fc28)
5 0x7ee84c62 WaitForMultipleObjects+0x3a() in kernel32 (0x0033fc48)
6 0x7eda4c5a in advapi32 (+0x24c5a) (0x0033fe88)
7 0x7eda5b1f StartServiceCtrlDispatcherW+0x127() in advapi32
(0x0033feb8)
8 0x7edcf8a7 wmain+0x47() in winedevice (0x0033fee8)
9 0x7edd067e in winedevice (+0x1067e) (0x0033ff08)
10 0x7ee71a27 in kernel32 (+0x51a27) (0x0033ffe8)
11 0xb7eafc03 wine_switch_to_stack+0x17() in libwine.so.1 (0x00000000)
Backtracing for thread 0018 in process 0017
(Z:\opt\Mplus_5.2\Mplus.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0x012b9f3f in mplus (+0xeb9f3f) (0x043594b8)
2 0x012933eb in mplus (+0xe933eb) (0x04359554)
3 0x00419cbb in mplus (+0x19cbb) (0x04359af8)
4 0x01171e60 in mplus (+0xd71e60) (0x043cfe78)
5 0x01347875 in mplus (+0xf47875) (0x043cfeb8)
6 0x01327d09 in mplus (+0xf27d09) (0x043cff08)
7 0x7ee71a27 in kernel32 (+0x51a27) (0x043cffe8)
8 0xb7ea7c03 wine_switch_to_stack+0x17() in libwine.so.1 (0x00000000)
0xffffe422: jmp 0xffffe417
Backtracing for thread 001a in process 0019
(c:\windows\system32\wineconsole.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x0033f668)
2 0x7efc27f3 NTDLL_wait_for_multiple_objects+0x1e6() in ntdll
(0x0033f778)
3 0x7efc2aa6 NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x62() in ntdll (0x0033f7a8)
4 0x7ee84b29 WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x12c() in kernel32 (0x0033f8f8)
5 0x7e9d3b0d X11DRV_MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0xe0() in winex11
(0x0033f928)
6 0x7eab7e93 MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0xd9() in user32 (0x0033fad8)
7 0x7eab7eef MsgWaitForMultipleObjects+0x3f() in user32 (0x0033faf8)
8 0x7edb6d0a in wineconsole (+0x16d0a) (0x0033fb48)
9 0x7edb90be WinMain+0x240() in wineconsole (0x0033fe58)
10 0x7edb9678 main+0xa8() in wineconsole (0x0033fed8)
11 0x7edb9595 in wineconsole (+0x19595) (0x0033ff08)
12 0x7ee71a27 in kernel32 (+0x51a27) (0x0033ffe8)
13 0xb7e0cc03 wine_switch_to_stack+0x17() in libwine.so.1 (0x00000000)
0xffffe422: jmp 0xffffe417
Backtracing for thread 001c in process 001b
(c:\windows\system32\explorer.exe):
Backtrace:
=>1 0xffffe422 (0x0033f498)
2 0x7efc27f3 NTDLL_wait_for_multiple_objects+0x1e6() in ntdll
(0x0033f5a8)
3 0x7efc2aa6 NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0x62() in ntdll (0x0033f5d8)
4 0x7ee84b29 WaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x12c() in kernel32 (0x0033f728)
5 0x7e953aa0 X11DRV_MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x73() in winex11
(0x0033f758)
6 0x7ec14122 GetMessageW+0xc6() in user32 (0x0033f798)
7 0x7edc4ecd manage_desktop+0x4c1() in explorer (0x0033f9a8)
8 0x7edc5c91 wWinMain+0x3fb() in explorer (0x0033fe68)
9 0x7edc7652 wmain+0xa2() in explorer (0x0033fee8)
10 0x7edc757a in explorer (+0x757a) (0x0033ff08)
11 0x7ee71a27 in kernel32 (+0x51a27) (0x0033ffe8)
12 0xb7e91c03 wine_switch_to_stack+0x17() in libwine.so.1 (0x00000000)
Wine-dbg>exit
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