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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try using fuser -v /mnt/cdrom to see the process that might be using
the cdrom.
Code:

$ /usr/sbin/fuser -v /mnt/cdrom

                     USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
/mnt/cdrom           matt       5461 ..c..  tcsh
                     root     kernel mount  /mnt/cdrom

You can then find the using shell. The brute force answer would be:

$ kill -9 5461; umount /mnt/cdrom; eject

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im having problems emerging anything on the second cd.

I have all my packages in the All directory, everything does seem to be copied over. When i try to 'emerge -k gnome' it tried to start downloading.

Sorry if i missed this some where, i cant find a fix.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gnome does not work from the GRP cd's
you have to download certain files because ORBits on the cd is newer than the one the ebuild wants.

BTW... martman00.. are you the same guy from justlinux.com
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see the first dep on my harddrive, why doesnt it pick it up?

Yeah it is me oubipaws, any luck with Dux?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slowly... very slowly.. dux will get done sometime


/usr/portage/packages/All/
emerge -k kde

GNOME will not work.. it install like 5 files and tries to download orbits
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant even get those 5.

Why wasnt it on the cd? I downloaded like 3 of them already.

Is there a binary ebuilds some where of orbits?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try using -K.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"There are no packages available to satisfy gnome"

I can see the packages that make up gnome.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easiest way (I found) to move files was to go to a Gentoo FTP mirror, and download the ebuilds that match the packages you have.

This, unfortunately, requires a second PC and some form of removable media.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can stick the files on my usb pendrive(256mb) if i can find a binary that works.

I dont want to do that for all the deps, thats what portage is for!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

help?!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a work around for installing Gnome? I've got the latest release x86-1.4-20030807, I was hoping to install Gnome off this release without going out onto the internet.

Best advice then if I want to grap the ebuilds and put them onto a cd to do other installs without a net connection, please? btw, genkernel appears to be working well on this latest release for an install I'm doing on my Sony Vaio.

I really do appreciate the efforts of the Gentoo team
Code:
genkernel --config
is going to be a major plus for me :-)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any help ??

i've been told that only oRBIT2 is compiled from source. otherwise the rest of the GNOME package is built from the binary ? ? anyone tried this yet ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i gave portage a binary ebuild of orbits myself, if you keeps wanting more every time.

one package(or more) is newer than the rest, thats whats wrong. the disc is screwed up. no one seems to know what package(s) it is and no one seems to be making a new set for this.

after talking to some people there is advice is to just compile it, which is bull since its supposed to work, its doesnt, and not alot has been done.

i should be able to get to a couple of local gurus soon, maybe they care.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any plan on releasing some new ISOs where gnome can be GRP'ed correctly? I tried KDE, but that just reminded me why I like Gnome so much ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told that its not a priority on irc.

So aparently the fact that its a POS doesnt matter. They cant even say this to prevent people from getting involved in this.

So functioning doesnt matter, what other company doesnt care about little thing like that? Could it be Microsoft.

My laptops been useless for awhile now, i dont want to stick kde on there. I think ill dig up my Redhat discs, ill wait but i have a feeling im going to need them. Im glad i didnt try this on anything important.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mart_man00 wrote:
I was told that its not a priority on irc.


Really? That really doesn't make Gentoo look very good. What's the point if they spend the time and bandwidth to prepare GRP CDs which don't work?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what i said and i was told not to be a ass.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got gnome working fine form the grp disks. i did have to download a few items though (orbit comes to mind i think). the rest of the gnome binary packages were installed manually piece by piece. i ran a lot of emerge -p something to find all the packages needed for a gnome install. whatever was on the GRP cd that matched the list, i emerged -K 'd them.

also... i had to fix scrollkeeper and the whole /etc/xml/catalog issue (i posted a fix elsewhere in the forums. https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=52372&highlight= )

it can be done. it is just a lot of manual work. there is no "emerge gnome" that does it all in one shot. Deal with it! :) it will be fixed when the time is right for the dev folks. but for what they have accomplished so far... i applaud them!

ps... here's another THANK YOU for Avenj! you were a big help!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it will be fixed when the time is right for the dev folks.

If you get into this kind of work you should stand by it. This cant be a huge problem, it should of been fixed already. Id settle for some one actually saying it. They took up the responsiblity themselves, if there doing a have off job with everything this shouldnt be a public distro.

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but for what they have accomplished so far... i applaud them!

Yeah, portage is kool. But when was that made? What changes did it go in 1.4? What do the other non portage guys do again? Who in charge here?

You shouldnt have to go threw everything by your self, that hwy they made portage in the first place! You fix problems the right way! Even MS comes up with patches!

I had a problem with cabs in windows a couple years back, i had a new pressed cd in my hand in like 3 days. How long does it take to fix a mirror and announce it? They fact they no one is fessing up is whats bugging me now.



Maybe ill try irc again tonight. Ive been trying yahoo lately(no devs but some good/nice users).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious: do the GRP CDs of EVERY platform have this problem, or just a few?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mart_man00 wrote:
Quote:
it will be fixed when the time is right for the dev folks.

If you get into this kind of work you should stand by it. This cant be a huge problem, it should of been fixed already. Id settle for some one actually saying it. They took up the responsiblity themselves, if there doing a have off job with everything this shouldnt be a public distro.

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but for what they have accomplished so far... i applaud them!

Yeah, portage is kool. But when was that made? What changes did it go in 1.4? What do the other non portage guys do again? Who in charge here?

You shouldnt have to go threw everything by your self, that hwy they made portage in the first place! You fix problems the right way! Even MS comes up with patches!

I had a problem with cabs in windows a couple years back, i had a new pressed cd in my hand in like 3 days. How long does it take to fix a mirror and announce it? They fact they no one is fessing up is whats bugging me now.



Maybe ill try irc again tonight. Ive been trying yahoo lately(no devs but some good/nice users).


Gentoo is not like MS. Gentoo is developed by people for free. It's not like MS where Bill Gates pays everybody hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop the software. These people are doing it totally for free except of what they make off the CD sales from web stores.

You don't like how they handle things, go to a binary based [shitty] distro like Redhat or Mandrake.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id like the people who took the responsiblity to deal with it and for the people that are good with this stuff to show up some time. I cant beleive there are that few.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mart_man00 wrote:
If you get into this kind of work you should stand by it. This cant be a huge problem, it should of been fixed already. Id settle for some one actually saying it. They took up the responsiblity themselves, if there doing a have off job with everything this shouldnt be a public distro.

You make it sound like Gentoo is completely broken or something. Installing Gentoo the traditional way (ie from source code) still works fine.

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:
You don't like how they handle things, go to a binary based [shitty] distro like Redhat or Mandrake.

... or Windows 8O
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly is the problem here? Are there missing *.bz2 packages or is portage looking for a different version that comes with the CD?
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